Cashshop

[Vanitas]

I remember when Bungie was good.

[Ageofwar]

I remember when Bungie was good.

back when they were not under the thumb of Activision

[silverlunarfox]

back when they were not under the thumb of Activision

I miss those days...

[Alestorm]

back when they were not under the thumb of Activision

Back then they were under the thumb of Microsoft, not a huge difference other than they were smart and negotiated better terms and limited access to their section of the campus. I heard they once had Bill Gates removed because he wasn't authorized to enter, didn't have an appointment to come over either.

[Cerbolt]

I really don't think destiny 2's the game you want to look to for ideas. They got so much backlash form their own community these last few months over the way they've handled pretty much everything. Adding cashshop items into the game to earn for free is the least they could do.

[Ageofwar]

I really don't think destiny 2's the game you want to look to for ideas. They got so much backlash form their own community these last few months over the way they've handled pretty much everything. Adding cashshop items into the game to earn for free is the least they could do.

Destiny 2 we can all agree is completely the wrong way to do it. As long as SE doesn't go outside of what they are doing with mogstation now it should be fine. when you start going down the pay to win route then I think everyone will have an issue, which SE doesn't really need to do since FFXIV is on a pay to play model not free to play (which is a good reason for SE not to go for the free to play model)

[Altera]

With Mogstation at least you get what you want to spend the money on while in Destiny 2, you pay for a % chance of obtaining an item you want, and pretty much everything was behind the Eververse hence the massive RemoveEverVerse spamfest/boycott on the D2 official forums.
Atm they pretty much HAVE to put the lootbox rewards ingame obtainable as people are fleeing the game atm and Bungie has taken a playertrust almost as bad as XIV1.0 made SE loose the trust of their FF fanbase.

[ElazulHP]

The second FFXIV adds loot boxes to the game/cash shop is the second I deactivate my sub. Destiny & games like it represent everything wrong with gaming these days.

[Avatre]

You know, thinking about this, we technically do have loot boxes through Palace of the Dead. Though it's for stuff that is already in game, and not on the cash shop.

[Ageofwar]

and unlike Destiny we pay a month sub so... SE doesn't really need to go down the whole loot box thing