Is it maybe time for a full infrastructure rebuild? (Re: Database and netcode issues)

[boomh]

What truly annoys me is when I try to click on an ogcd ability (such as barrage buff), the spell doesn't register and I end up wasting a gcd ability (Refulgent, Empyreal etc). There is indeed something wrong with the game when something so simple as not registering KEY abilities that you've pressed from your rotation not actually activating in the game. Until they fix something so simple as this, I doubt they can begin to tackle overhauling the database/netcode of the game (although I would love to see this as well).

And as OP has stated, telling me I have to "work around" this, or wait 0.5-1sec after pressing one of my abilities is not a SOLUTION.

[Tridus]

That said, I'm also wondering if it's because of the multiple OS it has to run on? While yes, at the 2016 FanFest they said "please upgrade from Win32bit to Win64bit" not everyone can afford to. I'm not a programmer though so that's a wild guess. Anyone who is a programmer around to confirm/deny that? The most I know is that they're different in how things are run, but any programming for a Win32 or Win64 is beyond me.

For a game, the principal difference is access to RAM. Win32 programs are limited to 2GB of memory, unless they use tricks like the 3GB compilation flag, PAE and such that allow more memory access at the cost of performance. Win64 compiled versions have access to a memory space far larger than anybody is going to have in a home PC. There's some other stuff as well, but memory is the most important part. 2GB isn't limiting when your other platform is the 512MB equipped PS3, but much more limiting when you want to do 4k graphics and your other platform is the 8GB PS4.

Even running a Win32 compiled program (like the same version of the game) on Win64 gives you 4GB to work with, because due to how the virtual memory system works it can allocate the entire 4GB address space to the game instead of needing some of it for the OS and hardware. With the PS3 gone, Win32 PCs are now their least common denominator platform. People started shifting to 64 years ago and it's fairly common now, to the point that among Steam users, Win32 is ~2% usage. Could be higher amongst FFXIV users, but you pretty much can't buy a Win32 PC anymore unless you're an enterprise level customer.

Yeah, I'd love for them to do it all in one go, but I don't see that happening. They'll update the way they did with SB and probably some unnamed patches. My guess is that's where the saddlebags are coming from is a small update on a part of the old infrastructure.

The saddlebags are interesting because they've cited data transfer of character information between the world server and the instance servers as a reason for not having larger inventory multiple times. The saddlebag inventory is specifically not available when you're in an instance, which suggests to me they're adding that instead of more inventory because it lets them avoid the extra memory required on the instance server (in a dungeon you simply don't have access to that inventory so that server doesn't need to know what's in it).

The glamour closet is the same thing in that it's also only available in specific locations and thus doesn't load the other servers at all.

(I am a programmer, although I don't know what their backend looks like so some of this is speculation. )

[Derio]

I think 200 is just the start number so they can test the servers. Once the servers are ok they could possibly double or triple the number

[Penthea]

I think 200 is just the start number so they can test the servers. Once the servers are ok they could possibly double or triple the number

They already said that more additions to the system will be added as time goes on, so you're probably right.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

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That said, I'm also wondering if it's because of the multiple OS it has to run on? While yes, at the 2016 FanFest they said "please upgrade from Win32bit to Win64bit" not everyone can afford to. I'm not a programmer though so that's a wild guess. Anyone who is a programmer around to confirm/deny that? The most I know is that they're different in how things are run, but any programming for a Win32 or Win64 is beyond me.
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The memory was touched on already, iirc 32 bit os can only read up to 4GB of ram at the most, with applications limited to 2GB without some tricks to get up to 3GB.


I believe most cpus nowadays can run as 64bit.
I don't know offhand what cpu was the last that couldn't run 64bit and was limited to 32bit...

Just have to remember to install the 64bit version of the os if your cpu can handle 64bits, or upgrade to the 64bit version.

[rainichan]

I have learned new things out of this thread, thanks for answering my questions on the programming side!