Is it maybe time for a full infrastructure rebuild? (Re: Database and netcode issues)

[Istaru]

This is a game. Not a civilization that's going to be destroyed. Meanwhile the person I'm responding to (who wasn't the OP btw, I'm starting to think you missed that part, I already responded to the OP earlier. ) is asking for people to sacrifice possibly health and sanity to save it, working on the new implementation WHILE maintaining the current updates and content flow.

First off, you glossed over the part where I stated, “As a person with a heart, I would care.”. I would care if they were abused by their management. My answer would not be to apologize for requesting that they earn my money. I would demand they stop. If they didn’t, I would cease to do business with them. Clear?

So it's OK because hey.. you paid for something and it only matters you get your moneys worth regardless of suffering? That's what you just said and it sounds .. kinda awful don't you think?

Not what I’m talking about. If SE needs to do X, Y and Z to support what they sold to us, then it is their responsibility to meet that need. It is not ours to accept X, when they could take care of the other things but they won’t pay for them.

Requesting the SE feed money into this game we all love and enjoy and as you've said PAY FOR is different then saying the team currently working on it is lazy or just that they could be doing more because they aren't writing an entirely new game at the same time as they create new content. That's what I'm responding to there.

I never said anyone was lazy, anywhere, in any thread, not in the entire almost 7 years I have been on these forums. Not sure where that comes from. For the record, I don’t think they’re lazy.

SE is a company and deserves very little loyalty and or compassion. The Dev team however are people with lives outside the studio who have already gone into such crunch time that they needed a couple months to recover after the first time. And then did it again for the expansion. "Ask for what you want but know what you're asking for" is what I preach.

you want to support this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-bigger-budget

not someone who suggests (NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE OP) squeezing more out of the workers in the same timeframe.

We agree about this. I do not think SE should abuse their people to fix something or whatever, it is why I specifically stated hiring people as an acceptable outcome and did not list run your team into an early grave as one.

[Krotoan]

First off, you glossed over the part where I stated, “As a person with a heart, I would care.”. I would care if they were abused by their management. My answer would not be to apologize for requesting that they earn my money. I would demand they stop. If they didn’t, I would cease to do business with them. Clear?



Not what I’m talking about. If SE needs to do X, Y and Z to support what they sold to us, then it is their responsibility to meet that need. It is not ours to accept X, when they could take care of the other things but they won’t pay for them.



I never said anyone was lazy, anywhere, in any thread, not in the entire almost 7 years I have been on these forums. Not sure where that comes from. For the record, I don’t think they’re lazy.



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Ok yes, clear now and no, I never said YOU said that.. but that is what's being implied by several other posters and it's incensing me.