Signet <Can I have it?>

[Maxthunder]

I have said it before I will say it again: some players dont want anything from FFXI in FFXIV, I dont see why though. Personally I would welcome this very much. As I see it now to get grand company seals/marks you either have to grind the leves for 120 seals for anywhere from 5-15 mins, or do the choco escort. Now I dont mind grinding but I dont like how many seals you get for doing a leve. The choco escort ya ok if you want try to get players to do the lvl 45 escort is not even worth the time.

Signet or whatever version, could be used to gain GC seals/marks faster and you wouldnt have to do those boring leves or wait till you had enough players to do the choco escorts. It is bad enough that there is nothing to do in this game now, other than crafting and or DoL. I personally would welcome a conquest system as this would as some depth to the game.

Now to those of you that dont like grinding for exp or whatever seem to think that questing for your exp is better, but it really is not any better due to the fact either you grind exp from mobs or grind exp from quests. The major difference is that w mob grinding you can control how much exp you get from kills, where as questing for exp is limited to what the programers decide you should get. Personally the questing for exp is something I would not like as I would be limited in how much exp I would get by the developers. Now if you done believe me look at how much exp you get from quests now, than look at how much exp you need for your next level.

I do realize I went off topic a bit but I believe this is something that ties signet, GC marks and exp together. What SE needs to do is stop listening to players and offer polls that players can not give feed back on, by answering yes or no. I believe what is actually happening to this game is the dev team is listening to much to the players and that can be a good and or bad thing. You have players that want this or dont want that, in the end the developers should take what made FFXI great and use it in FFXIV and make it better. SE needs to stop catering to everyone and do what they do best.

[AdvancedWind]

SE, please add Kefka as the main villain. It was so cool in VI and he is far more intimidating than all the villains in XIV combined.

SE, please make the Materia system exactly like it was on VII. I mean, it worked fine there and everyone loved, we should have it here too!

SE, please add Triple Triad to this game, or a Triple Triad copy. Everyone loved Triple Triad. (and yes, I'm aware there's an actual 500 posts + thread about that)

SE, please copy FFXIII's battle system. It's so cool to send enemies flying up with my attacks!

What, create new systems or improve the current ones? No SE, please copy up a feature from a previous game!


This is what you guys sound like when you make threads like this



Now, I'm not against adding features from previous games, or XI in here. I even made a post on that a few days ago.

But, seriously, this thread is a live monument to the huge nostalgia over FFXI that prevents some people to accept the fact this is an entirely new game and yes, some stuff from XI was not and will not be carried over. Deal with the fact that your <x> years playing XI will not magically come back if they start adding every single thing that "worked" on that game.

Really, all reasons I've read in this thread for adding signet literally boils down to "It worked in XI", and people pointing out they don't want it / didn't like it get posts like "You just don't want it because it was in XI and you are biased against it" or whatever.

And, for the record, This is how you properly apply XI nostalgia and concepts ,then turn em into a valid and useful complaint / feedback about this game.

See how they vastly differ from simple "HEY YOSHI, HERE'S THIS THING FROM XI, PLEASE ADD HERE KTHNXBYE" ?

[Jennestia]

I am against the idea of a signet as well. While I do want more GC seals, the signet will simply shift us even more toward monsters grinding, not enjoying varied activities.

Not really. You know what would shift us towards one thing and not enjoying a variety of activities? Once PvP is introduced. It's inevitable that something in an MMO will shift players towards one thing -- getting seals for killing a monster will not change that.

I get that people for whatever reason hates a grind (ironic too given in most MMOs you quest grind) but this wouldn't suddenly make people focus on one thing, it would actually get people to do something else lol.

go.

But, seriously, this thread is a live monument to the huge nostalgiai over FFXI that prevents some people to accept the fact this is an entirely new game

Yet it's ok to implement features from other MMOs in order for it to "compete"? Yet it's "nostalgia" for SE to take what works from their previous FF MMO and make it better, even though other companies has been doing that since 2004?

[Chinook]

What's fun about having to go to a NPC/Crystal every day/few hours to get a bonus ?

It seems the base of your problem is acquiring GC Seals, and there are other solutions/balancing that could be done before adding a pointless feature.

[Jinko]

SE, please make the Materia system exactly like it was on VII. I mean, it worked fine there and everyone loved, we should have it here too!

Would rather have that, than the shitty mess we have right now.

I don't paticularly think bringing everything from ff11 is a good idea but there are some thing which if done right and tweaked could be cool additions.

[ApplePie]

SE, please make the Materia system exactly like it was on VII. I mean, it worked fine there and everyone loved, we should have it here too!

Although this is sarcasm.... I hated that system so much. It felt so pointless to me.

I do want signet. More ways to obtain GCS is never a bad thing.

[Kiote]

I think this would be a great Idea, but ONLY for fighting Beastmen and Garleans.

Like a a means of setting yourself to active duty wherein your company recognizes your efforts against the enemy and rewards you as such.

This is NOT something you should get for killing random Mobs in the field.

[Jinko]

I think this would be a great Idea, but ONLY for fighting Beastmen and Garleans.

Like a a means of setting yourself to active duty wherein your company recognizes your efforts against the enemy and rewards you as such.

This is NOT something you should get for killing random Mobs in the field.

Agree that it should be limited to stronghold monsters, they could also have dungeons bosses give out seals on death.

[Jennestia]

Considering seals are a form of military currency, it would be a lot more like Sigil (which was superior anyway) than Signet. For those that don't know/afraid of Sigil, it basically gave you Regen/Refresh under 50%ish life Defense/Evasion/Attack/Accuracy bonus against monsters 3 levels above as well as monsters below you and a small bonus while doing Campaigns.

Why people would be against that is beyond me, but I suppose since FFXI is an MMO SE created before it's a bad thing, if WoW, Rift or SWTOR did it people would be all over it.

[AdvancedWind]

Yet it's ok to implement features from other MMOs in order for it to "compete"? Yet it's "nostalgia" for SE to take what works from their previous FF MMO and make it better, even though other companies has been doing that since 2004?

It's not a matter of it being "OK" or "not OK". Again, I repeat, I'm not even against adding ideas from XI, or other games. I'm also pretty glad that they did start taking up some stuff from XI, like XP chains.

In fact, there are plenty of stuff from other games I'd love to see here, including from XI. For example, a XI-style Blue Mage would make me instantly main it and never look back. A few dungeons with plenty of stuff to interact with, like some of XI's, wouldn't hurt too.

What I AM against is the prevalent mindset some people have here that SE *HAS* to *STAIGHT UP COPY* up XI or whatever other game to be succesful, offering little more reasons other than "It worked there" or "look at XIV, it sucks!".

If someone comes up here and post about WoW-like dungeon finder, or make the game fully voiced because SWOTOR is fully voiced, my reaction would be the exact same.