An Alternative? to parsers..

[thegreatonemal]

Funny. I skipped it day one with a standard comp at 260. I also healed it at roughly the same ilvl. We also skipped. Meanwhile, I was apart of many 5-6 DPS parties that couldn't skip. Does gear make it easier? Absolutely. But you could skip at ilvl 250, provided you knew what you were doing. In fact, Xeno did an all-tank mock run and they pushed Zurvan to 77%. Not a skip but considering none of them broke 1,800, which any DPS job should by that point. Well...

Gear was very rarely the issue with skipping Soar. People simply don't know how to do openers. Granted, the game deserves a fair bit of blame as it teaches you nothing.

Gonna call bs on that you were 260 when zurvan came out you didn't raid at all in creator? also teh fact the you killed him for the first time a few days after somehow i doubt if you were skipping soar in full 260 surly you would of had a clear. But that's as far as I'll go with that

[Sebazy]

Gonna call bs on that you were 260 when zurvan came out you didn't raid at all in creator? also teh fact the you killed him for the first time a few days after somehow i doubt if you were skipping soar in full 260 surly you would of had a clear. But that's as far as I'll go with that

In the meantime, progression raid teams were pushing him without even realising he did a Soar there =(

Pushing the first Soar was pretty effortless for most statics, but given that the rest of the encounter (As well as the Soar that follows) was a complete unknown at that stage, it's very believable that a group could skip and then fail to clear the rest of the fight. No MrHappy strats on day 1 remember!

[thegreatonemal]

In the meantime, progression raid teams were pushing him without even realising he did a Soar there =(

Pushing the first Soar was pretty effortless for most statics, but given that the rest of the encounter (As well as the Soar that follows) was a complete unknown at that stage, it's very believable that a group could skip and then fail to clear the rest of the fight. No MrHappy strats on day 1 remember!

no one ever said that raid geared people could as they out geared the fight from day one. The point she brought up was that you could skip soar with the base tombstone gear and that is just not true