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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    sold being the key word the people running were all above the item levels i just stated right? thanks for proving my point. Adding a 5fth just as week dps does nothing to push it and that's assuming of course if they know their rotations.

    now if you were selling in full 250 gear or some mixed and matched 260 gear with 4dps and were still skipping soar then you might have a leg to stand on
    No I didn't lmao. Lets imagine they are 4 dps doing 4.5k opener okay? so 4,5 x4 = 18k. Now, lets pretend those guys you talked about are lower ilvl, so their dps is about 3.8k to 4k, so lets go with 3.8k x5= 19k dps.
    Oh, that's 1k more dps than the group of 4, with lower damage from everyone but they have 1 more dps, if every dps was at 3.5k it still should be enough. Now, I might be wrong, but wasn't the diabolo gear ilvl 260? And most people had 260/270 shire gear. But since people was clueless on openers, that never happened, even with 6 dps. Hell, there was a pretty fun meme going around. The diadem weapon was ilvl 280 vs the 275 alexander one and I remember we had a DRG with it and he was doing 400-500 less than me and the stats on his weapon was 1 more WD and crit/det on it with some skillspeed. Funny how people think ilvl will make them great at the game, which is far from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    No I didn't lmao. Lets imagine they are 4 dps doing 4.5k opener okay? so 4,5 x4 = 18k. Now, lets pretend those guys you talked about are lower ilvl, so their dps is about 3.8k to 4k, so lets go with 3.8k x5= 19k dps.
    Oh, that's 1k more dps than the group of 4, with lower damage from everyone but they have 1 more dps, if every dps was at 3.5k it still should be enough. Now, I might be wrong, but wasn't the diabolo gear ilvl 260? And most people had 260/270 shire gear. But since people was clueless on openers, that never happened, even with 6 dps. Hell, there was a pretty fun meme going around. The diadem weapon was ilvl 280 vs the 275 alexander one and I remember we had a DRG with it and he was doing 400-500 less than me and the stats on his weapon was 1 more WD and crit/det on it with some skillspeed. Funny how people think ilvl will make them great at the game, which is far from it.
    lets not make up situation these things already happened. And you are wrong when zurvan came out the only people that had 270 gear were those who had cleared up to A11s it wasn't until 4-5 weeks that the catch up patch hit that gave out a piece of 270 gear a week. So most people doing zurvan were maybe full 260 shire with a few pieces of 24 man gear. min ilvl for that fight was 250 I believe. So yes lots of people were walking around in non optimized gear at the min ilvl requirement for that fight and the community was basically saying from day one of that fight coming out "skip phases or go home" so much to the point lots of people didn't even bothering learning the major mechanic of the fight.

    Now during that safety net were there people who were at the ilvls necessary to skip sure and had 5 dps and still didn't yup and those people are terrible or were messing around on classes they can't play well and the catch up patch people raised in ilvl and were still bad because they don't know their rotations. That's why anyone who had some sense and wanted to skip soar set their pfs to ilvl 265 and went from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Now during that safety net were there people who were at t.
    Making this short, but zurvan came out like 3 and half months after alex was out. So yes most people did have 260 shire gear, which is the buyable tomestone gear. People also could upgrade it in 24 man raid and get alt gear ilvl 260, so yeah, people did have that. Honestly I did more dps than most people being ilvl 255 smn, end of the whole run I was about 2.3k dps while the rest was around 1.7k and stuff being ilvl 265 etc. Like you said most people was 260 shire and that should be enough to do enough dmg. But god klnows why they cant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik501 View Post
    In duty finder? Accountable for what? It is a freaking game, you. Why are some people so obsessed with that? Don't you like how bad most of us poor mortals play in the duty finder? Good for you. Party finder is your tool. Use it, enjoy itl, and leave us poor mortals alone. See how easy it is?
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    In Duty Finder? Don't waste peoples time? It is a freaking game, you. What are some people so obsessed with wasting others time? Don't like how good most of us good players are in the duty finder and you want to waste others time? Good for you. Party Finder is your tool. Use it, enjoy itl, and leave us busy players alone. See how easy it is? "This will be a slow and lazy run so I can respect the content!
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
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    This is actually very funny. Are you worried I might waste your time doing something designed to, you know, waste time? How can we call that, meta-wasting time, I guess? lol. Here is the thing: you can't choose who you will be matched with in duty finder, can you? So, use it under your own risk. Do you want to choose who you will be matched with? Party finder is your tool. You can try to turn the tables as much as you want, but you know perfectly well that you are wrong in this. Why? Because you can't choose who you will get matched with in duty finder. No matter how much you try. You simply can't. It is a lost battle. You can get over it or not, but that's only your problem.

    Regardless, I'm out of this debate, it's clear it won't take us anywhere, so it's pointless. Have fun... well, I mean, if your sense of fun is not to meta-waste time, please, use party finder, I would not be able to sleep well if I made you meta-waste time or whatever.

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    Actually, now that I think about it. Why don't you ask for another duty finder, I mean, a duty finder with hard requirements, so that only those of you who can play extremely well can access to it. Oh, god, I would love to be able to play with other poor mortals who only want to have fun and don't give a crap about the meta-wasting time thing. Please, SE, create another duty finder. You may call it "Expert duty finder", or "Savage duty finder", or whatever you want to call it, and lock it behind some very hard requirements that people like me would never even bother to achieve. I think that's a great idea, win-win for everyone.
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    Last edited by Erik501; 01-13-2018 at 07:16 AM.