Quote Originally Posted by Hruodig View Post
I'd argue that clearing the dungeon is a pretty damn low standard to set. At this point I just accept that I'm most likely going to out dps almost any df dps I get in a dungeon queue, and more often than not I'm right. Why is that ok?
The game standard is set in the time limit to clear, there is no misunderstanding about that. Is it low? Yes. Does it need to be lowered to 10-15 mins? Same argument people have about frontline/rw 20 mins time, you only lose when you give up and I've seen plenty of losers who vote abandon on 1st wipe. You win when you try, not when you carry people.