/Accuse @ the devs: have you set us up to fail...?

[Darrcyphfeid]

i remember in ARR,the community was not that bad for end content,probably because the trial were maybe a bit harder back then,and so you would get ready for bahamut coil,but now,they don't even try to add gameplay in dungeon,tank pull everything,healer heal through it,and DD aoe.so much gameplay wow

Your feelings about ARR are in large part due to ARR actually having endgame progression that spanned multiple tiers/the entire expansion, coupled with lv50 rotations being fairly straightforward. Like you couldn't enter BCoB at all unless you could clear the 3 HM Primals, couldn't enter SCoB without killing Twintania, couldn't fight Ifrit EX if you couldn't handle Garuda and Titan, and couldn't attempt Ramuh until you proved you could handle the ones that came before him.

Contrast that with the Warring Triad in HW, where you had to kill the HM versions in order but would otherwise have access to all 7 EX Primals without setting foot into any of them. Or Savage Midas only being locked behind normal mode Gordias and Midas, instead of Savage Gordias (which is probably for the best given how hard that was, but still).

I still think the required MSQ stuff being nerfed plays a bigger role in the lack of personal responsibility/skill overall, but the endgame losing cohesive progression hurts too.