/Accuse @ the devs: have you set us up to fail...?

[SilverObi]

Richard your posts are usually decent and warrant discussion and debate but what even is this? If this is a continuation from one of the other threads you started or participated in, shouldn't it go into those and contribute instead of further clogging up the forums and giving yourself another soapbox?

That being said, the game's leveling experience does teach you the basics of what's required to function at max level with the exception of PotD which neuters any and all lessons on team composition and play (positionals, tanks pull, stick together, etc). Every dungeon has mechanics that will be used later and the player is advised when they learn/can learn a new ability. Now the matter I believe you're addressing is that bad players will ignore these notifications and repeated lessons. Sadly that's on the individual unless the game delves into levels of handholding that I'm sure very few of us want.

The state of the game is hardly as bad as your theoretical situation and places a lot of the responsibility on the player to find the ways and means to improve themselves, just like most any game of any merit.

[RichardButte]

That being said, the game's leveling experience does teach you the basics of what's required to function at max level

It teaches you the basics, but for tanks and healers, their objective in a level 20 dungeon is the same as it is at level 70.

For DPS, that objective changes dramatically the moment the game hits them with a DPS check in an encounter because it's suddenly, after 69 levels, demanding they do a minimum amount of damage, despite the game giving them very little feedback as to how to actually DO that.

That's the problem that needs fixing.

tl;dr: yet another want parser thread, only based on a more outlandish premise than others.

I know the devs don't want to go the parser route that's their call, but please, give us DPS players SOMETHING to go on so we can learn to play our classes as we level like tanks and healers do.

This is the OPPOSITE of that.

They can give us something to gauge our effectiveness (especially in a group) without a parser.