Why?

[LeeraSorlan]

the entire system is pretty lame for a solo player...telll me how i can tank ixion literally from 100%, to 0% and still get bronze? im literally contributing by tanking the thing and making sure everyone else survives.

not mad about it, but if u tank the fight from start to finish...you should be garuenteed full credit ._.

[Lilseph]

the entire system is pretty lame for a solo player...telll me how i can tank ixion literally from 100%, to 0% and still get bronze? im literally contributing by tanking the thing and making sure everyone else survives.

not mad about it, but if u tank the fight from start to finish...you should be garuenteed full credit ._.

I like to think about it as if it was a bar you fill. If you have several parties of several people, they are filling their party bars incredibly fast and they will most likely gold (Heals, DPS, tanks spamming aggro moves). If you don't, you'll fill that bar extremely slow. That's contribution. Party vs Solo. The party's contribution is counted as one, whereas solo does the same but it's only you. It's logical.

FATEs like that scale really high so your contribution, even if you tanked the whole thing, is nothing compared to what a full party or light party can do.

Really guys, is not that hard to ask for a party invite or create a party yourself. You'll see a lot of "inv pls" messages. Invite them, get stuff done, thank them for joining and disband.

[LeeraSorlan]

I like to think about it as if it was a bar you fill. If you have several parties of several people, they are filling their party bars incredibly fast and they will most likely gold (Heals, DPS, tanks spamming aggro moves). If you don't, you'll fill that bar extremely slow. That's contribution. Party vs Solo. The party's contribution is counted as one, whereas solo does the same but it's only you. It's logical.

FATEs like that scale really high so your contribution, even if you tanked the whole thing, is nothing compared to what a full party or light party can do.

Really guys, is not that hard to ask for a party invite or create a party yourself. You'll see a lot of "inv pls" messages. Invite them, get stuff done, thank them for joining and disband.

I understand the system and how it works yea. doesnt mean its not a bad system tho

[aesteval]

Just done an ixion fate and got no rewards due to not being in a party(at least i believe this to be the reason) and if that is indeed the case i think thats absolute crap.

So back to my title. Why?
I was there dpsing the entire time, didnt die, why the hell are we FORCED to join parties...

Join. A. Party.

I can get solo gold on a-rank hunts except for when there are so many players also in on it. I can solo get gold on Odin. I've only managed to scrounge together silver solo on Ixion. Ixion is difficult to rank on by yourself. I was a little late to the FATE, but not sure how much being there earlier would have actually helped.

[Jijifli]

fact is, and indeed the entire reason for this thread is, it should not matter how you want to kill it.

I want to be able to kill everything in the game as a Miner.

Maybe we don't always get to play solo. Maybe "/shout inv pls" is your friend and makes it easy. Not like that mount's any good, breaks my Lala's arms.

[Vstarstruck]

By that logic, should dungeons be scaled based on party size, thus allowing you to solo them? The whole purpose of FFXIV in general is group activity. They want to incentivise partying together, and that stance isn't going to change.

Threads like this makes me feel people are actually serious when they play really badly to force a 30+ minute run in the duty finder, try to advice them, then they reply with "you do not play my sub" I thought it was just a meme but people are serious apparently.

To the op, people answered why, it is because you were not in a party, that simple

[enthauptet]

I understand the system and how it works yea. doesnt mean its not a bad system tho

Yep pretty much, it's the same issue with DOTs and stuff like that. Their "fix" to dots not showing up on bosses was to remove dots from half the classes and take away some from jobs that got to keep dots. I was pretty sad my first Ixion I did and got no credit since I just partied with my bf doing healing and me BLM doing top 5 dps on boss.

[LeeraSorlan]

Threads like this makes me feel people are actually serious when they play really badly to force a 30+ minute run in the duty finder, try to advice them, then they reply with "you do not play my sub" I thought it was just a meme but people are serious apparently.

To the op, people answered why, it is because you were not in a party, that simple

im confused at this...do yoou realize how flawed the system currently is?

Tell me..why should someone who tanks an entire S rank/Fate not get full credit simply because they were not in a party..when derpy mcbard over there used straight shot one single time in a party of 8 and went afk to go make a sandwhich and came back to full credit? thats a heavily flawed system

[Canadane]

Like all fates and hunts, it's enmity based.
Want full credit solo? Play tank.

[Squintina]

Well you asked "why" and you were answered. Whether it's a good system or not, well that's subjective.

Personally I find that even without asking for an invite there are usually PF up you can join without asking, or you can make one and incoming people will join it, so it's not really a big deal (and because of that I doubt the devs will spend the effort needed to fix something that can be so easily circumvented, regardless of whether it's good or not, especially when there isn't a general concensus that it's bad.)

Doing full tank enmity (or doing 1 hit as a healer and then going full heal spam) is one way to get full or near-full credit solo, though it's not guaranteed.