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    fact is, and indeed the entire reason for this thread is, it should not matter how you want to kill it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmyy View Post
    fact is, and indeed the entire reason for this thread is, it should not matter how you want to kill it.
    Well, the real developers decided it should matter, so if you want a better chance to get full contribution you should consider taking the 3 seconds worth of effort and ask for a party invite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmyy View Post
    fact is, and indeed the entire reason for this thread is, it should not matter how you want to kill it.
    But unless you can do as much damage as a full pary on your own, it does matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmyy View Post
    fact is, and indeed the entire reason for this thread is, it should not matter how you want to kill it.
    By that logic, should dungeons be scaled based on party size, thus allowing you to solo them? The whole purpose of FFXIV in general is group activity. They want to incentivise partying together, and that stance isn't going to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    By that logic, should dungeons be scaled based on party size, thus allowing you to solo them? The whole purpose of FFXIV in general is group activity. They want to incentivise partying together, and that stance isn't going to change.
    Threads like this makes me feel people are actually serious when they play really badly to force a 30+ minute run in the duty finder, try to advice them, then they reply with "you do not play my sub" I thought it was just a meme but people are serious apparently.

    To the op, people answered why, it is because you were not in a party, that simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Threads like this makes me feel people are actually serious when they play really badly to force a 30+ minute run in the duty finder, try to advice them, then they reply with "you do not play my sub" I thought it was just a meme but people are serious apparently.

    To the op, people answered why, it is because you were not in a party, that simple
    im confused at this...do yoou realize how flawed the system currently is?

    Tell me..why should someone who tanks an entire S rank/Fate not get full credit simply because they were not in a party..when derpy mcbard over there used straight shot one single time in a party of 8 and went afk to go make a sandwhich and came back to full credit? thats a heavily flawed system
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
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    Responding this and your comment above, I don't see any issue with the current system.

    It encourages you to group with other people if you want full credit. Not even as a tank you're guaranteed to get full credit btw. If the monster dies super fast, you won't have the chance to build enough emnity to get enough credit for it. The example you mention is an issue with every aspect of the game. People sometimes will get carried. You name it: Dungeons, trials, raids, FATEs (you can even kill stuff and move to the other FATE as people still finish the one you left), other overworld content. The only thing YOU can do is to concern about your own thing. Get a group, you'll know that most people will contribute, get the credit, thank them and leave. Easy. I don't see any issue with it.

    Why is the "soloing" part so important when it's so easy to party up with others (as they are damn spamming/inviting others to do it). Specially in an MMO. Coming from old school MMOs, this request (OPs) seems silly, I'm sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
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    my issue with it is that it doesnt encourage playing with a party, it more or less requires it..if you are doing any sort of popular hunt or fate thats current where there are hundreds of playing, you are basically not going to get full credit solo, id go as far as to say its impossible. thats my issue..sure its easy to join a party, sure youll get full credit in a party...but why cant we do both? if getting full credit out of a party was an achievable feat..not including the times where theres like 10 people around the hunt but upwards of 200+ then id have no complaints, even if it required you to be good at the job you are playing to get that full credit
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    my issue with it is that it doesnt encourage playing with a party, it more or less requires it..
    You must've been a world of fun when you discovered Sastasha.
    This is an MMO, and this is open world content. The end-game of open world content. If there're 100 people there, fight gets shorter, you have less time to built up your credit. Makes sense you'd party up with other people between the shorter time and the more people to compete against. There's also absolutely zero reason to not party when you stop to think about it because you're keeping yourself out of utility and heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    my issue with it is that it doesnt encourage playing with a party, it more or less requires it.
    Surprise! Neither A/S-rank-hunts nore big boss fates are supposed to be solo content - you cant solo those FATEs and except for the outdated ARR A-ranks you can solo those hunts either. They are group-content and you're already doing them as group even if you dont join a party. So dont fool and hurt yourself on pretending those are in any way content you can and should do by yourself, because you cant because the content isnt meant to be that way.
    All group content requires a party. This is group-content (even if its a little different than a dungeon or raid) - why should it be different? And why is it such a problem to type a quick "please inv!" into the chat, join a party, get your credit and leave again?
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