I'm being taunted by a bot farmer...

[KageTokage]

I kind of regret even posting this because I forgot that most of the time, people end up assuming I'm the one in the wrong for whatever reason.

So the guy you've been "stalking" named his retainers after you. Ok. Well we each can name our retainers whatever we want. How's that malicious on his part though?

The GM who PM'd me did acknowledge that it can be considered harassment depending on the intent and the names involved. In this case, he's obviously doing it to spite me now that I know that he's the face behind the bots (He specifically changed the names of his retainers after this fact and it was extremely easy to identify them just based on what his bots are farming as he has no restraint and sells several hundred aethersands simultaneously), which ultimately amounts to nothing due to the "action team" that deals with cheaters being absurdly incompetent or a myth.

[DeaconMoore]

I kind of regret even posting this because I forgot that most of the time, people end up assuming I'm the one in the wrong for whatever reason.

I have no idea why anyone would think that...

There's a pair of gathering/crafting bots that have been my server forever. I've spent a great deal of time stalking them and have also reported them multiple times, but naturally, nothing was ever actually done about them...

...So yeah. This is just me venting because my attempts to get someone banned for years of cheating have only ended up causing problems for me in the end.

...Oh...

Teasing aside, while your name and variations are being used how do you know another player isn't the guilty party? Sure you say this guys a bot farmer, but someone else could be behind those retainers. Nothing stopping someone from buying up and relisting mats or just dumping farmed ones for that matter.

Really though I'm still having a hard time seeing this hurting your rep. Anyone can name a retainer based on your toons name if it isn't already taken. Anyone. Honestly, you say you have a rep on your server, you could have a stalker of your own.

[KageTokage]

I suppose "stalking" isn't really the right term, unless you call deliberately going to the same unspoiled nodes as the bots stalking. I wasn't like I was constantly hovering around them specifically to watch them.

But in any case, I think I'll just try to get over it and not let it bother me. The novelty will probably wear off sooner or later, and I can just try to make people aware that I'm not the one selling the stuff until then.

[LeeraSorlan]

you stalked the bots and prodded the main. Bots are bad, anyone who bots should be banned, im not going against that.

however this is an situation that is entirely caused by YOU, you could have reported the bots and moved on, you could have not prodded the main and moved on, but you didnt.


i get it, dont blame the victim, what he did is wrong, obviously. im just saying next time, be a bit more careful of what you do, if you arent prepared to face what your actions might get you into. All of this could have been avoided

[KageTokage]

He already changed the name of one of his retainers back to what it originally was.

I guess I'll just loathe him quietly instead of being more open about it from now.

[LaylaTsarra]

Eh. He already changed the names of one of his retainers back to what it originally.

I guess I'll just loathe him quietly by undercutting his everdeeps instead of being more open about it from now on.

It's very frustrating I know we have one on siren doing all the legendaries and aethersands, clusters and so on. i've reported him a number of times along with friends and others who gather who were talking about him in shouts in the Lochs. It's pretty easy to figure out his retainer names and he posts stacks and stacks of mats killing the market prices and making gathering at times not even worth the effort.

Good luck.

[Alisi]

i get it, dont blame the victim, what he did is wrong, obviously. im just saying next time, be a bit more careful of what you do, if you arent prepared to face what your actions might get you into. All of this could have been avoided

No. You're wrong. This is a system of the game you don't understand. As a gatherer, it's very, very, VERY hard to not stalk people and it's completely by happenstance. This is something you wouldn't understand if you don't have max level gatherers. This is because special nodes spawn at certain times and in fixed locations of the world. This means there's one place in the entire game where you can gather something and these pop up at set times. You have no choice in this. If you want X, you have to be at Y at a certain time of the EO day. This makes it really easy to pseudo-stalk people. You get to know ALL the end game gatherers on your server this way and it's absolutely unavoidable -- unless you suggest giving up that whole aspect of the game.

I'm not necessarily only directing this at you but at everyone in this thread who doesn't understand how you can stalk someone but not really stalk someone.

I guess I'll just loathe him quietly instead of being more open about it from now.

At least they aren't whispering you and telling you how terrible you are and how they own the market. We get those on my server.

[Cakekizyy]

I'm not necessarily only directing this at you but at everyone in this thread who doesn't understand how you can stalk someone but not really stalk someone.



At least they aren't whispering you and telling you how terrible you are and how they own the market. We get those on my server.

That's being in same place, not same thing as stalking.

[Alisi]

That's being in same place, not same thing as stalking.

I never said it was. I'm trying to translate what the OP said. It *feels* like stalking.

Not sure how i can be wrong when i didnt make any statements regarding stalking. The op himself said he was stalking, thats not something i can be wrong about, its a fact, based on what was said, that the bot was being stalked. ...but if you dig deeper...there is literally no way this was unintentional stalking....he followed the bot, lets say at first because of the node situation...sure, coincedinces...but then he proceeded to find the bots main on the market board..find the bots main IN THE GAME PHYSICALLY and spam emotes at the bots main every chance he saw the bots main..thats not unintentional stalking..its going out of your way to stalk

It seems like stalking but it isn't. You don't understand because you do not gather end game. These things are on a rote cycle. That means you can literally follow someone throughout the game, from one thing to another, from one map to another, while not stalking someone. You both are simply gathering the same item. It can feel like your stalking someone, or someone is stalking you. These bots are gathering bots and the bots work for the main -- which mean the main would know likely be at these spots. And you can throw emotes at people because you're literally standing right next to them. They are right there and there's not much else to do when you're waiting for them to pop up. This isn't an issue where you have a whole map or even individual nodes. The nodes spawn in the same place for everyone, at the same time for everyone. I will warp to the map and I know 90% of the time who will warp in after me, because they are gatherers, I know they're doing the gathering thing because I just saw them, and I know what's about to come up. It feels like stalking you're stalking these people when you're not.

As for the MB, if you're gathering and selling, you will see that person's listing when you list your own. There is an option to bring up the current prices of any item you're selling on the MB (and an option to see who bought stuff.) I'm sorry, but if someone has retain of your name, it'll stand out more. And you can tell who owns the retainers either by the stuff they sell. Equipment you make has your name on it. I know the retainer names of all my competition -- not because I go out of my way but because their name is on the stuff they sell.

[LeeraSorlan]

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how you can assume what i do ingame is beyond me..but its stalking, its not about what you feel like it is, its not about coincedince, its stalking, it doesnt matter what your personal opinion is regarding a fact

He was stalking.

I also stopped purposely following his bots around months ago