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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    You could always just ask SE to change the SSS dummies so they move around like the actual boss does, or display hit zones for you to dodge (even though no attack will actually happen). Can't guarantee they'd make such a change though.
    I like this idea more since not only would it provide a more realistic approach for practicing boss fights, but it would also provide a better means of important people (a.k.a. tanks and healers) to practice boss fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    While cold, it would be easier and quicker to simply save up and buy or build a gaming PC than wait on SE to do anything parser related.
    I dont think we, as a community, should not consider this a solution. That solution would also mean not only purchasing a pc, but also repurchasing the FFXIV License. No one should have to do that.
    (And no, I play on PC, but I have PS4 players in my static and among my friends.)
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    [I]If the player insists you're not doing as much as you say, they're clearly using a 3rd party parser and could be reported for doing so.

    ...

    It could only help us improve as DPS players and it would be vastly more convenient than having to visit a specialized instance that exists entirely due to a lack of personal parsers.
    A self-improvement tool that doesn't muddy the water around the issue of harassment? Sign me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Snip . . .
    Never used the word 'you' so your last part does not make much sense.

    SE feels that lack of official parser is a benefit for the community. Also if I was a betting man pretty sure those that use or desire the use of a parser are in the minority. As I said it is cold, but it simply a lot easier for people to save up and buy or build a gaming PC than expect SE to do anything official regarding parser. I mean look at any interview damage meters are brought up, they shoot that question down in seconds and move on to the next one.

    Would it be nice for those that want it? Sure. Hell it would be nice if I could mail gil and items between my own characters on a server. I am sure other people have things that they would like to do in the game that are not possible because of SE's mindset.

    Either way people have options if they want to use or have use of a parser. Download, become friends with someone that has one and bug them, or save up and buy or build a gaming PC. All those options are far more practical then expecting SE to do anything regarding a parser of anytime on a official scale. End of the day let us just chalk it up to one of those console limitations. Maybe when PS5 hit they will add a personal parser.
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    Last edited by Awha; 01-07-2018 at 08:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    That does nothing for PS4 players, who can not install a parser on their system. They have no way of gauging their damage in a fight.
    There is also fflogs.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    [I]If you're afraid someone will ask you what your DPS is, you'd have the same option players do now: lie about it.
    If someone asks about your numbers, there's a good chance they will have ACT running. Now their reason for kicking shifts from low DPS to you lying.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Never used the word 'you' so your last part does not make much sense.
    Im sorry if that came out wrong, and I did not want to imply you saying anything here. This was merely me stating that this is my opinion as someone that plays on PC, nothing more and nothing less .

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    There is also fflogs.
    fflogs only works if a PS4 player plays with someone who plays on PC and uploads the logs for them.
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    Parsers, like any tool, are good if used beneficially.

    But as we all know, they have been - for years - used as an ingame insult mechanic by a percentage of the playing population.
    Unfortunately over these years this percentage has increased as the ingame social standards have suffered an ongoing decline.

    Some would say the playerbase only has itself to blame for some people's resistance, even dislike, of this tool. Whilst acknowledging that not all players are the same, it would be hard to argue with this statement

    Now a personal parser, whilst on paper sounding like a safer option in terms of in game behaviour, does open the door to this, and fairly easily.

    For example: A players posts their parser in group/raid chat and demands others do the same. Those who don't are an immediate insult target for the original person and maybe others.
    This spreads to general chat, as people are publicly criticized for not posting their personal parser information.

    As the statement above suggests, the playerbase should look at it's own behaviour before looking at the developers - and the ever increasing trend to use parsers, not as a benefit, but as an antisocial insult in the game.
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    Last edited by Teraluna; 01-07-2018 at 08:13 PM.

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    Maybe in the future with the record feature since I think it functions by recording actions then recreating the situation. If the recordings can be saved and uploaded maybe the people at FFlogs can some how use that data to convert a run into data that can be viewed on FFLogs like a post run parse. Either way asking something of the team behind FFLogs more likely result in action being taken than asking SE.

    I know nothing about programming so take my idea with a grain of salt. Just spit balling.
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  10. #30
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Or maybe just make a color indicator for the party memeber names in the UI, so it will take the total damage done and compare it to total damage done by the party.
    So we could have colors from green to red to indicate how much each memeber contributes to the game, that would make things even easier than a parser and raw numbers.
    For example, white would indicate contribution to the overall damage done white 0-5%, yellow 5-10%, green 10-15%, blue 15-20%, orange 20-25%, red 25-30%, purple 30%+.
    And i believe it would be a good indication, because 30% is already a good chunk of contribution and none would expect from a dps insane numbers, but it would also make super easy to see, when a dps doesnt do his job properly. It would be quite easy for dps to reach purple, since healer and tank doesnt contribute too much into the damage pool, and it would prevent dpsers from not giving a two ducks about the game, because lets face it some people just push two buttons for entire dungeon thinking they are doing anything.
    These guys are a bigger problem than a dps who makes many mistakes one after another one.
    And for the 8 man or 24 man dungeon, the requred contribution could be 2x lower or 6 times lower, so it will match the number of players in the team and the contribution from one each.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 01-07-2018 at 09:21 PM.

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