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    Enla's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by F_Maximillian View Post
    You're missing the point of what I was saying. I don't think OP intended for a ranking system to be implemented at all. To me it was exactly the question of whether or not people would be fine with playing solely with others who put the same amount of effort in at any given time as they do. People have homed in on the notion of ranking and competition but the overall message the idea sends is that people seem like they wouldn't be ok with playing with others on their level on this game. Why that is one can only speculate.
    Honestly though there's already a way to do precisely that. It's called making your own group of like minded individuals in a party and rolling with them instead. It's what I do when I can't be bothered to slog through content with people who might decide they'd rather be carried. If we aren't discussing a ranking system then that's pretty much all there is too it. If you don't want to be grouped with underachievers then the onus is on you to find people who share your same standards because you can't exactly implement such a thing properly /without/ a ranking system. Even a manual opt-in toggle will do little to no good because there are plenty of people in this game who think they're hot shit or want to be carried by better players. You legitimately can't create a system like this that will perfectly emulate the desired outcome because everyone's standards are different.
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    Ferox Maximillian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly though there's already a way to do precisely that. It's called making your own group of like minded individuals in a party and rolling with them instead. It's what I do when I can't be bothered to slog through content with people who might decide they'd rather be carried. If we aren't discussing a ranking system then that's pretty much all there is too it. If you don't want to be grouped with underachievers then the onus is on you to find people who share your same standards because you can't exactly implement such a thing properly /without/ a ranking system. Even a manual opt-in toggle will do little to no good because there are plenty of people in this game who think they're hot shit or want to be carried by better players. You legitimately can't create a system like this that will perfectly emulate the desired outcome because everyone's standards are different.
    There is no ranking system, nor do I think the OP would want one. Yes, you can already do just that and people who care enough about those they play with skill wise do just that. This feels aimed more at the people who get all up in arms when standards may be applied to them/accountability may be called into question and so far it seems to have worked exactly as expected. If you look past the poorly laid out notion of a ranking system you see a post asking if those who don't already filter people who play better or worse out would be ok with everyone they run into playing at the same level they do. The last line of the op is the only fully accurate line in the op. It's not even asking for a ranking system. It's an example in which such a system existed, would you be fine with how your gameplay experience was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly though there's already a way to do precisely that. It's called making your own group of like minded individuals in a party and rolling with them instead. .
    Even if you make PF's like that on your own, you are always bound to meet 1-2 people who aren't up for your own standars. Pretty much what people say these days on PF: High dps, yet theirs is on pair with a tank or slightly above one. The system I talked about isn't about ranking the game/players, more like dividing them up for those they want to play with, alas same minded players. If a person think its hella fun to spam blizzard, why not pair them up with another person whos the same? Then you have players who say trying to aoe is making the game a job, so why not pair them up together since they don't want to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Knowing how SE sets the bar so low, you'd get gold my spamming autos.
    Lmao I actually laughed pretty hard there, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by KatoKato View Post
    If it's about finding like-minded players, then instead of some shady secret mechanism why not let people actually state their preferences. E.g., to create a df profile where you list your attitudes: "I'm a beginner/Beginners welcome", "Prefer fast runs", "Want my tank to take it slow", "Braindead after 14h shift"... And when the duty pops up, players can see what matched.
    That wouldn't been so bad tbh. Like a option etc.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 01-09-2018 at 09:53 AM.