Why do you fail at Hashmal?

[KaivaC]

You realize you're the common denominator in these fail groups. Maybe it's a you thing, rather than a them thing.

Failing at Hashmul is understandable. You have no right to complain until you run into groups who fail at Lakshmi NM.

For Lakshmi, I actually have not been in a party that has not cleared her fight. Surprisingly.

For the other comment...I'm not...sure if that was directed specifically at me, or if it was answering the question. Don't want to put up the wrong response for a misunderstanding.

[Alisi]

For the other comment...I'm not...sure if that was directed specifically at me, or if it was answering the question. Don't want to put up the wrong response for a misunderstanding.

You haven't heard that before? It's what you say when people complain about how terrible other people are. ;P

Honestly, I think it's because people run bots in raids now. As a healer, I'm seeing a ton lately. The other three are easy enough that you have to actively try to wipe but with Hashmul, it's easier.

[KaivaC]

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I have? I don't recall saying that to anyone in the forums, but I could be wrong. Keep in mind, I'm not suggesting that it's one or two people in this particular fight - there's usually 1 or 2 players dying in 24-mans. My question/complaint is more or less on when it's a majority of an alliance that ends up dying. I could understand the flaming arm, because you do have to rotate your camera to try and find Hashmal, but dealing with the sandspheres, eating the huge conal AOEs from the Command Tower, a non-tank taking a Rock Buster to the face...those are things that I'm referencing.

[Alisi]

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I haven't been in a raid that has wiped on Hashmul in a while... But if you want an actual reason, I will have to say: shitty healers who ignore the other alliances. I actively heal and/or rez people in other alliances. Alliances don't generally all die at once. It's a DPS then a healer and everyone else fails from there. Hashmul has enough mechanics that are easy to get killed on for a variety of reasons (from being crappy to having lag.) We are alliances, not armies of 8 people. We're supposed to be supporting each other. Often times, I'll support other alliances and they'll have no issues but when that support isn't reciprocated, our alliance often dies. If one alliance is dead, and you're a healer in another that's alive and well, then you take a share of the blame on yourself. If one alliance actually has to ask another to rev one of the healers (especially when the whole alliance is dead), then congrats: you're a shitty alliance healer.

[KaivaC]

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Oh trust me, I agree. It may take me a bit because it's a bit difficult targeting other alliance healers on a PS4, but I will get to it once I'm sure I can miss a heal on my own alliance - I generally do not trust my co-healer due to experience. But yes, I agree on this aspect.

[RiyahArp]

Oh trust me, I agree. It may take me a bit because it's a bit difficult targeting other alliance healers on a PS4, but I will get to it once I'm sure I can miss a heal on my own alliance - I generally do not trust my co-healer due to experience. But yes, I agree on this aspect.

There's a easy way to do it on ps4. Do you see the little group of 8 boxes that indicate another alliance's party? Use the PS4's mouse button, slide your finger which moves the cursor over the box that represents the healer, and tap the button. That will target the healer, and then you can raise them. Most people don't realize that you can just rub the middle button and it moves the cursor like a touchpad, with tapping like clicking, and that you can target people from the alliance list. It even shows the current target of the boss in red.

[KaivaC]

There's a easy way to do it on ps4. Do you see the little group of 8 boxes that indicate another alliance's party? Use the PS4's mouse button, slide your finger which moves the cursor over the box that represents the healer, and tap the button. That will target the healer, and then you can raise them. Most people don't realize that you can just rub the middle button and it moves the cursor like a touchpad, with tapping like clicking, and that you can target people from the alliance list. It even shows the current target of the boss in red.

That's what I do. It just takes me a minute because I have to physically use the thumb that I use for activating my GCDs, so I have to be very sure that my alliance can survive for a few seconds before I go to resurrecting like this.

[Sieben79]

I haven't been in a raid that has wiped on Hashmul in a while... But if you want an actual reason, I will have to say: shitty healers who ignore the other alliances. I actively heal and/or rez people in other alliances. Alliances don't generally all die at once. It's a DPS then a healer and everyone else fails from there. Hashmul has enough mechanics that are easy to get killed on for a variety of reasons (from being crappy to having lag.) We are alliances, not armies of 8 people. We're supposed to be supporting each other. Often times, I'll support other alliances and they'll have no issues but when that support isn't reciprocated, our alliance often dies. If one alliance is dead, and you're a healer in another that's alive and well, then you take a share of the blame on yourself. If one alliance actually has to ask another to rev one of the healers (especially when the whole alliance is dead), then congrats: you're a shitty alliance healer.

I resurrect other alliance healers only if either my group is doing fine, swiftcast is ready or it's totally safe to hard cast. It's no good for you to ignore the next mechanic for a res because you can die to it or the hard res gonna be interrupted. In between your party can also die, you have to wait for the right moment. If you're dead, be patient

Hmm, for Hashmal: like many mentioned before it's safe to stand near him while he does his Tower Control, because after this he'll jump away for his ?Jagged Edge?. Or you stand on the middle line, so he can only spawn ahead or behind you. The mistake that many does is standing near the edge of the half moon arena, so if their unlucky they won't do it (even with sprint) in time. Here is a picture:

Arena look kind of this



The brown area is the ornament ground color. The black dot is Hashmal, the yellow are the towers. After he jumps away, he appears either A or B, so if you're standing near the middle or at least in the brown area you'll have plently of time to react for his dive. The players at the northern and southern edge at the halfmoon area have a 50/50 chance they'll survive.

You also don't have to run too the edge on the opposite. It often looks like this picture:



So now you can imagine what happend if some players get the purple or the other AOE's and running all at the same direction

[Sieben79]

Forgot to mentioned it: after he bruise through the arena, you can already move to the other side, even if the groundanimation is burning so if players would stand near the center, they would have more place and time to decide where to go either with their aoe marks or without them.

[Alisi]

I resurrect other alliance healers only if either my group is doing fine, swiftcast is ready or it's totally safe to hard cast. It's no good for you to ignore the next mechanic for a res because you can die to it or the hard res gonna be interrupted. In between your party can also die, you have to wait for the right moment. If you're dead, be patient

I didn't say 'obviously, don't heal the other alliance while neglecting your own' because I felt that was self explanatory. To an extent. If all three alliances are suffering and I see one has wholly collapsed, I will send a rev to the healer(s) over one of our DPS. Healers are more of a priority to stabilize a bad situation and bring the group back from a near wipe. Was in an alliance raid the other day. Two of the alliances were down and half of ours was dead. Managed to get the other alliances up and running, and all of our own as well, and didn't wipe. It feels great to do that.