Why do you fail at Hashmal?

[Nestmile]

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Hmm, yeah, I see where you're coming from. It's not that your expectations are unreasonable, but... well, expecting anything tends to mean you're bound to be disappointed, unfortunately. That's not to say that you shouldn't have expectations either, it's just... maybe this is a bit cynical, but maybe you should try not to be too surprised or frustrated when people don't meet them. People are... pretty unreliable on the whole, and incomprehensible even moreso.

To be fair as well, it makes sense that more of the players who struggle to perform their roles (even in a bare-bones fashion) would fall into the "casual" base, simply because that very lack of skill is a barrier to being considered part of a... "higher tier," I guess I'd say, of players, no? I guess that also sort of brings up the question of how you'd define where these players fall, especially just at a glance. Is it just a matter of their performance? That would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Their gear level? The jobs they have capped? What metric are we using to define "casual" as opposed to "midcore" or "hardcore?"

Overall though, I fear that there are probably no satisfactory answers to your concerns. Some people just aren't very good. Some people just don't care very much. And if I'm conceptualizing the idea most people have of "casual" players, how could those people fall into any other category?

[KaivaC]

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That's the thing...I don't often get frustrated to the point where I'm willing to make a topic over it. It's just very noticeable because Hashmal is still literally the wall. I don't necessarily have a metric...it seems the midcore begins when you start progging Savage modes, I suppose. Because those are definitely not casual content. O2S and O3S are still a problem, and they are much harder than fighting Hashmal...well...not so much with O2S, it's just remembering things.

[Nestmile]

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Yeah from what I've seen you're generally pretty levelheaded, so I was surprised to see this topic coming from you, to be honest. (Is that weird to say? I lurk a lot and usually notice your posts 'cause you're also on Siren, haha.)

And again, I definitely sympathize with that frustration! I'm not really sure why people struggle too much with Hashmal, either, to be honest. I'm just kind of spitballing and/or trying to understand exactly who we're talking about. So, like, I think that progging Savage is probably a reasonable point at which to say "midcore" might start. But my question was more along the lines of "how do you know where the people who are underperforming on Hashmal fall on the scale?"

[KaivaC]

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We Sirens have to stick together, ya know

Umm...that is an interesting question. Somebody should make a topic on what defines casual/midcore as it relates to FFXIV. The boiling point for me today was an entire alliance, minus their tank, getting wiped. Twice. I'm actually very stumped on how to define your question lol