Quote Originally Posted by Nestmile View Post
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It's no problem, rant away

My contention is that it's not all casual players who I'm saying are bad. However, I have to say a huge chunk of the casual base are just...not all that great at their jobs. Keep in mind, I'm not exactly speaking about sprouts and all that, but I do believe once you hit level 50, you should be able to get through a lot of content. On the voice chat aspect, I've only used voice chat for progging through Savage - after that, I don't use it because I don't necessarily need it. But that is just me.

But the whole point of this thread was not just on one or two players - there are 23 others in the same raid as you, and at a minimum, 8 of them have been terrible in a huge portion of my runs. I get Hashmal is pretty hard for casual content, but it's not patch week anymore...1/3 of the players in a raid should not be floor tanking this raid at this point. It's not even Ozma, with his different attacks, or Forgall, which does require some coordination to get through.