Why do you fail at Hashmal?

[KaivaC]

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Heh....maybe I am running into bad luck. I dunno. I've been through on all three roles, so I have a general idea of how to tackle the fight from each perspective.

[Sieben79]

Heh....maybe I am running into bad luck. I dunno. I've been through on all three roles, so I have a general idea of how to tackle the fight from each perspective.

I don't deny it that there are also lazy players in teams or leecher who always get a call from work or had a lag for whole 15 minutes and then do nothing. I also played Paladin, Whitemage in Rabanastre, so it's not only a view from a DD side But Blackmage is fun for me to do the mechanics and do damage in this more or less chaotic environment.

[KaldeaSahaline]

I'd like to address this as a misconception. Casual doesn't mean bad. I am a casual player but I am very good at the classes I play and with mechanics.

Agreed casual really should not be the community go-to as a measure of skill. It really fits better as measure of time played. For instance, I myself am a very casual player because I play a mere 2-3 hours a week.However, I wanted to respond to this to draw attention to an issue I very frequently see in the FF14 community. When people make a statement or offer advice, your credibility is directly influenced by your experience.

Frequently we see low information players make comments like "I have every character at 70 I know what I am talking about", or "I have a mentor crown, so I know more than you", when in fact neither of those (and many other instances) are indicative of actual subject matter expertise.

In your specific example, you've made a decision to hide your logs. That is a red flag to me that demonstrates that you may lack the class/mechanic expertise you claim to possess (not that you do, merely that it is likely).

Couple that with a statement you made below about another healer who had "eaten a couple columns", but then stated that they were indeed a good healer. However, evidence clearly shows the opposite. We all make mistakes for sure, ESPECIALLY including myself, but repeatedly dying to the same mechanic and calling that player good is a red flag that further cripples your credibility.

I'm all for helping people, in fact I thoroughly enjoy it, but they have to want to be helped. In my admittedly anecdotal, experience the playerbase simply does not take tips/criticism well regardless of how many smileys, how colloquial, or cat girl ASCII memes I post while attempting it.

Last piece - please understand this is not intended as an attack on you personally, but merely a demonstration intended to show that if you want to be more credible to your audience you need to demonstrate you come from a position of subject matter expertise.

[Lilseph]

There's only so much help that one can give.

I'm on the same boat with you here. I have given up on teaching and explaining things. I remember some people tried to vote kick me for telling the tank how to tank in World of Darkness. When we cleared I /clap at him and they got offended thinking I was being sarcastic. -.-

I expect them to know what they are doing or research on their own. It's not my responsability.

[KaivaC]

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On this subject, however, since we are talking specifically about Rabanastre, while I agree that experience does play a role in a person's credibility, FFlogs really has no bearing outside of Savage runs....not that I'm aware of players who even have time to check Fflogs in a 24-man. I get what you're trying to say myself, but that being said, the FFLOGs comment doesn't really have much of a bearing when it comes to Rabanstre or really, the thread at hand.

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And I've actually hit my posting limit for the day...surprisingly. Haven't hit that since my first few months here. I do encourage a wider discussion on this, though. Seems like I touched on something beyond Hashmal, so I'm actually looking forward to what other posters might say and how this discussion will evolve.

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If anybody catches this comment, what are the post limits? Or where can I find them? Might have to start multi-quoting in my replies.

[Claviusnex]

So now you can imagine what happend if some players get the purple or the other AOE's and running all at the same direction

This is what I usually die to as the players with purple all stack on top everybody as we move towards the outside.

[XenabelleS]

You don't reliably get bonus messages in Rabanastre for some reason.

I ran it for the first time this week and there was no bonus message on either my Thursday attempt which was a disband after two wipes on the 2nd boss, or the subsequent Friday attempt which was a clear.

As to the OP, I'm in the "oh crap, that tower got sliced in the direction that I am strafing" camp. I try my best to move where other people are moving but if I am even a half second behind, I get hit by the aoe that went of a few seconds ago even when I am standing with everyone else when it kills me.

Also, it was only my 2nd time even seeing this fight - so yes, there are still new people. I started Heavensward when Stormblood dropped and started Stormblood in mid December (took my time to level all my DOH/DOL/DOMs to 60 before starting SB MSQ)

[ChloeGrace]

It's almost always when I get hemmed in from someone else stacking those purple circles on/near me and I can't get out in time.
That, and healers dying so often they can't keep up with the raid-wide splash damage.

[LaylaTsarra]

It's almost always when I get hemmed in from someone else stacking those purple circles on/near me and I can't get out in time.
That, and healers dying so often they can't keep up with the raid-wide splash damage.

Got to love when they do that to the healer. Trying to keep myself up and they double circle you and poof. Personally I love the raid and I choose to heal it now as opposed to dps on my main and alts.

[SenorPatty]

In all of this, I forgot to ask about the only mech in the whole raid that I can't overcome: Argath gnawing dread + trepidation combo. I really suck at moving in the way I want to so I thought I'd ask if anyone knows at what time he does this combo and where's the best place to be when he does it so I have some time to work the gnawing dread out.