Why do you fail at Hashmal?

[KaivaC]

So...maybe I just want to know why in general, but why is Hashmal such a challenge for players? I don't get it. This late in 4.1, I don't understand why at least once a week (I think to run this twice), there's always terrible players. Even for casuals, this is sad. What's so difficult about staying with your alliance? What's so hard about doing your rotation on the sandspheres so they don't wipe out the whole alliance?

Better yet, what's so hard about running to the side that doesn't have Hashmal's flaming arm? Hello, if you see a vast majority of players running to one side, why are you just standing there, staring at them as if Raubahn's about to chop you in half like that one Lala?

Or the towers? My god, the towers. I've seen them wipe whole alliances multiple times in the same run. I know I've said that in general, the casual player base is...not that good. I want to take back those words...

...but no, the casual player base in general really isn't that good. Mayhaps a representative of this player base can explain things to me?

[Aomine1992]

The same reason they still fail at ozma and scathach (however you spell it)

[BillyKaplan]

The problem I find with Hashmal is actually a good reason why Savage should be kept away from 24 people - I'm not even talking about players who lack in skill, I'm talking about how many of his mechanics can easily wipe you. A single player didn't stack with his party during orbs and got the stacking marker? You wipe that other party because they got two markers. Everyone do stack to avoid Earth Hammer or in the safe half of the arena during his cleave? Congratulations you need to run away from ground markers or the player markers on you, and not everyone spreads in time or correctly. You might even know the mechanic and have survived it before but if that other person next to you started running in the same direction and latency didn't let either of you break away in time, or you both broke to the other direction, congratulations, you're both dead, and you're both healers, maybe even the same party's. It's a fight that pits you against the worst RNG of all - other players.

[Sekkei]

Don't forget all the healers standing in front of his face along with the main tank that's about to eat a Rock Cutter. Watching bodies become dominoes is always reassuring...

[DeaconMoore]

Better yet, what's so hard about running to the side that doesn't have Hashmal's flaming arm? Hello, if you see a vast majority of players running to one side, why are you just standing there, staring at them as if Raubahn's about to chop you in half like that one Lala?

The Mothmen are real, that's why.

[KaivaC]

I just don't get it. Like, forget about the towers, I swear during the run today, pretty much an entire alliance got wiped by the time the golems spawned. It wasn't even the towers - they couldn't kill their sphere in time. I've seen this even when alliances all stack together properly...I don't get it to be honest.

[Sebazy]

Hashmal is a weird one.

On an individual level, the mechanics aren't hard at all, it's entirely an attentiveness check. Has he just jumped? Be nearish the middle and ready to run to the safe side. ControlTower? Be near your marker. People who can't handle these things with some vague semblence of consistency shouldn't even be in the instance if you ask me =/

In honesty, the ground markers after earth hammer leading into adds aren't especially problematic, if the group wipes there, they deserve to as you generally only have yourself to blame if you die at that point.

A tip: if you get trapped, just hang on the edge and find a single non stacked marker to eat, it's not pretty but you'll survive, just be sure to get back in range of your healer afterwards to get topped up before the golem aoe starts hitting hard.

The 3 stack markers during the orbs are more annoying as it's easily to get wiped through no fault of your own and that's likely the only thing I'd change about the encounter TBH.

Another Tip: This is also very survivable with calm heads. If you get the stack marker, do the right thing for your team and just run out with it IMO. Alternatively, if the markers are on other people and they aren't moving around, angle yourself on the edge of one of the markers to the opposite side of the other, 4 people will survive the stack with barriers (and maybe even without) np and it's entirely possible to get through unscathed as long as both markers aren't stacked tight.

Honestly, the thing that annoys me the most is when you see people repeatedly run into the unsafe edge for the dive, I can often save 2 people from that mechanic if Rescue is up, but not if they're not even in range =/

Frankly, the biggest problem I have with Rabanastre is that the difficulty falls off so massively after Hashal, the last 2 bosses are genuinely difficult to wipe to IMHO which leads to the sort of complacency we see on the first pair.

[SilverObi]

Need to vent? Put it here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry.-Let-s-vent.

I've seen that fight fall apart due to one person running to the wrong spot and causing disaster dominoes

[Alestorm]

The most common reason is it is a positioning fight. Since there is a level of RNG for where the pillars drop and what half of the map will be instant death when he does his dash; you can't learn the mechanics as easily as the other bosses. That and all the havoc people also are out of place when the orbs spawn and are afraid to run through the bleeds to get where thy're needed.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It stems from the poor difficulty scaling this game offers. These players can easily get away with ignoring mechanics in virtually every dungeon and MSQ, thus they don't think it'll be an issue. That's why you begin seeing such an enormous decline the higher up people climb. You actually have to pay attention.