Why do you fail at Hashmal?

[Sieben79]

In all of this, I forgot to ask about the only mech in the whole raid that I can't overcome: Argath gnawing dread + trepidation combo. I really suck at moving in the way I want to so I thought I'd ask if anyone knows at what time he does this combo and where's the best place to be when he does it so I have some time to work the gnawing dread out.

Since I'm playing with german language I'll try it: Trepidation should be the meteors (google) and Gnawing Dread the cursor. Or do you mean the cursor combo, where you have to walk to the safespot? As for the cursor mechanic: walk a bit stop so often until it shows at the right direction (use sprint if you're too far away) even if you don't direct move into the field, try to get close. You have 1-2 seconds after the cursor to get into the safezone. After the surrounding aoe vanish go away from the safespot, because argath will drop down there.

The other cursor before an after: just walk the way you wish until there is no aoe beneath you

edit: At what time: after his ultimate for sure

edit two: after the second sword laydown next to his mask of goddess and devil mechanic.

[Deceptus]

It's almost always when I get hemmed in from someone else stacking those purple circles on/near me and I can't get out in time.
That, and healers dying so often they can't keep up with the raid-wide splash damage.

This is why you notice them before hand and move away preemptively. Notice 3 circles coming your way? Move.

In all of this, I forgot to ask about the only mech in the whole raid that I can't overcome: Argath gnawing dread + trepidation combo. I really suck at moving in the way I want to so I thought I'd ask if anyone knows at what time he does this combo and where's the best place to be when he does it so I have some time to work the gnawing dread out.

Easiest way to overcome this is honestly have a healer use Rescue on you. Perhaps say something before the fight so they can slot it. Repay their kindness with a comm

[KaldeaSahaline]

On this subject, however, since we are talking specifically about Rabanastre, while I agree that experience does play a role in a person's credibility, FFlogs really has no bearing outside of Savage runs....not that I'm aware of players who even have time to check Fflogs in a 24-man. I get what you're trying to say myself, but that being said, the FFLOGs comment doesn't really have much of a bearing when it comes to Rabanstre or really, the thread at hand.

If anybody catches this comment, what are the post limits? Or where can I find them? Might have to start multi-quoting in my replies.

10 posts a day I believe is the cutoff.

The content form is irrelevant in this case, whether it is a dungeon, rabanastre, or savage. I'm saying that people of all shapes and flavors give advice (whether solicited or unsolicited) and not all advice is created equal. Anecdotally, the advice given I've witnessed is often flat out incorrect or misguided most of the time AND that's just based on the knowledge I have. Imagine all the misinformation on things I don't know well enough to make a correction on.

The poster mentioned that they were "very good" and I provided evidence that very heavily likely indicated otherwise, in an effort to demonstrate to other players that you should be careful who you take advice from.

I'll give you a personal example. One O4S pull I made a mistake (sigh east coast ping) and my provoke didn't go off before I cast Rage of Halone after one of the threat resets. Our healer ended up getting targeted for the Aero III, which wasn't the end of the world, I simply used cover and we went on with no issues to wipe later to Omega. I even said in chat, shit my bad, missed the provoke before my RoH.

The other tank gave me some unsolicited advice how to get threat. He went into this long spiel about how I need to make sure we're voke shirking so we have threat and don't lose it, (which is a true statement technically, but is also 100% irrelevant to the issue) due to O4S aggro resetting prior to that mechanic. Let's not forget that this same tank was averaging a mere 1,600 DPS in ~ 336 ilvl (no crafted). For reference, I averaged 1,700 DPS during Susano EX in i297 gear in shield oath full time 2 weeks after SB launch.

In all forms of content, people give advice, sometimes its solid and well founded and other times its misguided at best, downright harmful at worst. It's important to make sure there's a distinction.

Case in point: The post above mine. That is not good advice.

In all of this, I forgot to ask about the only mech in the whole raid that I can't overcome: Argath gnawing dread + trepidation combo. I really suck at moving in the way I want to so I thought I'd ask if anyone knows at what time he does this combo and where's the best place to be when he does it so I have some time to work the gnawing dread out.

The easiest way to resolve this is to quickly tap your forward key repeatedly until you get the direction correct then hold it down. This forces the spinning hand icon to move incredibly slowly allowing you to get it right and then simply move forward by holding forward down.

[Catwho]

I think it's because Hashmal in particular is endless AOEs. I RDM during this fight (trying for dat caster body) and it's soul crushing to see someone raise right when he's doing an AOE, have them complete an action that isn't a self cure of some kind, and then immediately die again. I got in the habit of tossing a cure to anyone I raised even though I'm not a healer.

Dodging the half-arena swipe of doom forced me to start hanging around the east-west axis at all times when not actively dodging. This helped quite a bit.

[Synrin]

I think it's because Hashmal in particular is endless AOEs. I RDM during this fight (trying for dat caster body) and it's soul crushing to see someone raise right when he's doing an AOE, have them complete an action that isn't a self cure of some kind, and then immediately die again. I got in the habit of tossing a cure to anyone I raised even though I'm not a healer.

Dodging the half-arena swipe of doom forced me to start hanging around the east-west axis at all times when not actively dodging. This helped quite a bit.

Once you die on that boss you are honestly as good as dead, with that weakness you will keep dying and ressing at inapporpriate times because, surprise, there is no appropriate time...

[Paladinleeds]

Once you die on that boss you are honestly as good as dead, with that weakness you will keep dying and ressing at inapporpriate times because, surprise, there is no appropriate time...

Actually, not so much anymore, as the new weakness doesn't make you take more damage. It just reduces how much you deal. A well timed heal after you get ressed, and you're laughing all the way to the bank. It's the "Unnerved" stacks you need to worry about.

[Avatre]

Once you die on that boss you are honestly as good as dead, with that weakness you will keep dying and ressing at inapporpriate times because, surprise, there is no appropriate time...

Except, didn't they change the weakness to be reduced damage dealt rather than reduced HP?

It all comes down to timing. And yes, it is completely possible to resurrect at an appropriate time so that you aren't taking the raid wide AoE. But, sadly, that costs attention, and as proven by many fights in the game...that is a very rare currency for a lot of people.

[Fynlar]

But all of them are avoidable if you pay attention and... actually do the mechanics?

No shit 1-shots are avoidable if you know what to do and are constantly situationally aware of it. For the people that aren't though, having everything just kill you is not really the best definition of a good learning curve.

[Llugen]

I didn't read most of the thread, but to answer the title question, I notice players dodging the double command towers in the last phase and then forget that there are also the purple AOEs going out at the same time, so they stand in them and die. Then, when the healers are dead, the party can't be healed up for Quake IV. This is usually how I end up dying.


Cheers.

[DevonEllwood]

I got to go into Rabanastre for the first time I think on Saturday. t was this fight that cased people to start dropping.I really wish I could tell you how a casual takes the fight on, but I couldn't tell what was going on. My computer was never meant as a gaming computer (it was for college and I am getting a year old gaming computer soon) and my frame rate generally sits at around 16. For some reason, the bosses in this raid drop it even below that making the fights more difficult than it needs to be. I won't be going back in until I get my new computer, but some people (and I mean some) may be in the same boat....just playing on a potato that needs to be retired. Maybe I should have just dumped this into the duty finder thread to apologize.