Minimum ilvl of dungeons

[Squintina]

So it would be very reasonable to set the min ilvl for Dusk Vigil to ilvl 95 to 110 (110 would be 10 ilvl less then the dropping gear like in the lvl 50 dungeons and 105 would be 15 ilvl less then the dropping gear like the early lvl 60 dungeons).
Via lvl 50 MSQ you will get a whole set + a second one of ilvl 100 gear, you get more then enough poetics to get a 120 weapon and additional gear and the MSQ in Ishgard provides a set of ilvl 115 left side gear in HQ, so it wouldn't realy hinder new players.

Also Snowcloak may be ilvl 80 but Keeper of the Lake is ilvl 90 and also MSQ dungeon, so a bit more ilvl for the next harder dungeon in line wouldn't be unreasonable especially with the whole bunch of free gear from the previouse MSQ.

Also it is time they fix the min ilvl to absolut min ilvl instead of average min ilvl, so you can't outbalance your trash weapon and left side with some cheap accessoires for more or less no real gain in comparsion with an upgraded left side to circumvent the min ilvl as fast as possible.

i95-110 for Dusk Vigil sounds reasonable. Maybe they'll listen.

[HyoMinPark]

Kick someone because they don't have the best gear? Is this a joke? He was probably there for the poetic, so he can get better gear. Not everyone has lots of gil to buy gear from the market board or vendors.

Last I checked, Dusk Vigil doesn't give poetics.

In this case it seems that the player was farming tomes to get better gear for that class.

Dusk Vigil doesn’t drop tomestones. Leveling dungeons have never dropped current or old tomestones.


If the person already has 3 jobs at level 70, why don’t they have proper gear for this one? Vendor gear isn’t that expensive, and a vender i115 weapon would be way better than the level 43 staff he was using. An NQ Yeti Staff (which is the i115 weapon) costs 23,680 gil from a vendor.

The rest of his gear should have been fine, but to be in a level 51 dungeon, where the gear that drops is i120, and have an i43 weapon is a tad unacceptable.

[hynaku]

Needs to be raised on alot of dungeons. see to many under geared running them and dying. Other day had tank on my ex roulette pull a two groups of monsters and before healer could get off one heal they was dead from being to under geared and the caused group before finished the dungeon to wipe 5 times.

[RylaBee]

I do not condone kicking ppl over iLvl.
However agree, that opening dungeons of Heavensward should have minimum ilvl of at least Snowcloak (80).

Issue with alt-jobs is, that people have the dungeons opened from previous classes and level - especially dps - up to 50 with things like PoTD and then start joining Leveling or 50/60 roulettes.
50/60 specially will land them exclusively in non-iLvl barred instances like Dusk Vigil and Sohm Al, with the results descibed..

[Wintersandman]

I had a MCH in Dun Scaith who was in i90/i120 gear. He switched at Ultima. He couldn't even survive the standard raid damage. We should have kicked him but nobody did. I called him out on it and he said his gear broke.

[Waleran]

Kick someone because they don't have the best gear? Is this a joke? He was probably there for the poetic, so he can get better gear. Not everyone has lots of gil to buy gear from the market board or vendors.

But he had 3 other classes with Item lvl 330+, he could get poetics a lot quicker with the other classes then come back to get lvls with the other one. At least this was what I 've done with my healer, so the party could have a good healer. They dont need the best gear, but at least a Standard gear for their lvl. It Is not fair with the other party members.

[Waleran]

Thank you for taking time to read my post. It is good to know that are players who think like me and can see that this is wrong. I hope that the GMs and ADMs take this seriously, unlike my support ticket. Because it is not fair to the other party members to "carry" someone in their back like a burden.

[QueenSophie]

why would you use MSQ gear? I and a friend each have made a few million from the msq rewards. All gear can be gotten for free in dungeons.

[QueenSophie]

If you don't like a random party makeup, I wouldnt be using duty finder. If you're using duty finder, you should be comporomising.

[Bryt]

This is why I don't examine people. What I don't know can't hurt me, right?