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  1. #1
    Player
    Taker34's Avatar
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    Shapley Laniakea
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 53

    Unhappy New Tank facing many challenges... need advice.

    Heyo,

    I want to seek advice for my current situation as a new Paladin tank.

    Until lvl ~50 I was doing ok for someone who goes blind into everything.
    In a recent farm run several people argued about my HP. It was lower than some of the DPS ones. One claimed while he understood I had lvl 50 Gear, my HP was still to low and something else is wrong with my tank. He was sure his tank had more HP in worse gear.

    As far as I’m aware HP is gearbound and unless I took a leap of faith into that 8 man magitek trial, I couldn’t afford myself a lvl 120 sword and board. One argued that he was glad this wasn’t his first trial when he started to learn tanking but at this point I wasn’t sure who tried to be nice and who was just honest.

    YouTube (MTQ!) has been very helpful. Whenever I can I purchase the highest level gear from the marketplace but that drains my Gil so fast, it’s not even funny.
    I also want to finally play a Dark Knight (meta is a question of time not class ) soon.
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    Player
    Guolstyrm's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Guolstyrm Zirnwintsyn
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Lower HP than DPS is definitely an indicator that something is up. Is your right side equipped with even close to at-level gear? If all of your other gear (head, chest, arms, etc) is at level 50 then I'd bet money you have an accessory issue (necklace, rings, bracelet, etc.). Do you have tomestones of poetics? If so, you can go to Mor Dhona and get the stuff you need for your right side.
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    Ferth's Avatar
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    Character
    Ferth Fontaine
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Level 50 is kind of a mess if you are new to things. Gear that was fine at level 49 will be absolutely garbage at 50. Item level jumps from 50 to 130 in that one level. I'm pretty sure the game gives you gear that is Ilvl 90 for doing quests (I don't remember if it gives accessories, though.) but even that is paltry in comparison to the best potential gear for that level.

    If you have poetics certainly try to get the Ironworks gear from Mor Dhona, it will stay relevant til about 55. Otherwise you might see if you can get the relatively easy to craft ilvl 115 gear from the Market Board.
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    Anienai Talenca
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Been awhile, but MSQ gives HQ gear rewards right?
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    Character
    Carlo Vinne
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    For levelling past 50, yes. MSQ at 50 gives old tomestone gear that isn't Ironworks.
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    Elkanah's Avatar
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    Character
    Shikaree Sinhunter
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    Been awhile, but MSQ gives HQ gear rewards right?
    Now it does, with the new update to brand new characters and stormblood expansion updates. But I believe it only gives you gear up to.... Hellfire gear at 60. Since Shire is the current till the new SB stuff later on post 62.

    Gear plays as much a role at 50 as it does at 70, as we all know, but for new players, it can be flexed between current gear and level sync too.

    If you're using 120 gear from Moar Donuts, Taker34, as long as it's between the 115 gear (purchase-able HQ) or 130 gear upgraded from 120 in Mor Dhona/North Shroud, your HP should be fine.

    ALSO! Gear breaks over time! If you are seeing red and it's below 50% on any gear in the window, you will want to get that repaired right away! As damage can cause that drop in VIT and stats too.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Taker34 View Post
    As far as I’m aware HP is gearbound and unless I took a leap of faith into that 8 man magitek trial, I couldn’t afford myself a lvl 120 sword and board. One argued that he was glad this wasn’t his first trial when he started to learn tanking but at this point I wasn’t sure who tried to be nice and who was just honest.
    They were being honest, not (just) nice.

    Tanks face a unique situation in this game. You're actually not fighting other monsters as much as you think, but other players instead -- fighting them for enmity. Which means you can end up in situations like i90 you vs i135-sync them.

    While they may have more hp than you (that's how ilvls work), you should still have plenty to clear the content. Keeping hate may be a bigger problem. Well. I don't really know what to say, though, other than gear up as fast as you can, and it's a rocky road. But stick with it and you'll enjoy always being in demand, and being showered with bonus rewards like materia.

    Good luck.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Character
    Nephthys Yamada
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    As you go from 50-70 - you will find yourself replace your gear frequently.

    Be prepared to spend gill at NPC shops or poetics at the various city stores where they are at (Mor Dhona,Idyleshire,Reach)

    When running low on funds - back it down to a dungeon you can farm for better gear. You'll hit that threshold and find yourself doing better sooner than you think.
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    Character
    Dark Blizzard
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Hi there friend,
    My main class is tank (PLD). My advise to you right now that you are at level 50, is to do all the Job Quests for the class & win the artefact armour, it's free and you don't need to use your Gil in MarketBoard&NPC's. You should also do Daily Duties and Dungeons to farm poetics. For example, using the artefact armour, the first poetics that you gain you use to buy in Mor Dhona lvl120 accessories, than when you got all the acessories, you use them to buy lvl120 armour. That gear and accessories can be upgraded to lvl130 armour using Carbontwine and Carboncoat. Don't worry using poetics, you has a new player, will receive bonus tomes when entering a new trial/dungeon/raid etc.
    The new Dungeons will also give armour/acessories/weapons. Has a tank is important that we have the best gear possible, because you need HP&Agroo.
    Cheers my friend.
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Character
    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    You should never have to buy anyrhing from the MB until you are max level. Dont you have a crap ton of poetic?

    Otherwise you could get to 51 and ask a friend to buy you all the vendor stuff from HW
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