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  1. 01-03-2018 02:43 AM #1
    Paladinleeds
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Hence you are limited
    While I can agree it is an owner's problem with a cheap PC/laptop (though by the way, most all-in-one desktop PCs, which seem to be gaining ground, which are still technically PCs as are laptops, are soldered in components), and you can upgrade to it, are most people going to upgrade over it? Doubtful. It's why it still provides some limitations by its very means of market forces. Now, SE can quite easily say to PS4 users and PCs with lower specs "We don't want your custom anymore until you get a beefy PC" (see FFXIV 1.0, from what I read, it had problems running out the wazoo). Business-wise, it causes limitations because you have to weigh up do you want to cut those people out of the loop, or try and work around their PCs. It's a limitation, albeit a more indirect limitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.
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  2. 01-03-2018 05:25 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
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    Buying just any old PC and complaining you cannot game well or at all on it is like buying a toaster and complaining you cannot bake a pizza in it.

    My only argument was that PC are not technically limited. If you buy one that is that does not mean that the PC are limited, its just that you made a bad purchase. Buy something made for what you intend to use it for. And a gaming PC, or even a PC capable of decent gaming, is not necessarily as expensive as that meme wants you to believe. Also, very few PC have soldered in components outside Apple products since PC are made to be upgradable or at least to allow replacement parts.

    No matter what excuses you want to make, there is absolutely no way of getting around console limitations, no matter your argument. You literally just hit a wall with no way to get around it.
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  3. 01-03-2018 05:37 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    No matter what excuses you want to make, there is absolutely no way of getting around console limitations, no matter your argument. You literally just hit a wall with no way to get around it.
    I'm not trying to deny console limitations. I know they exist. And most all-in-ones I've seen are soldered in components whether from Apple or otherwise. I don't think the Mac Pros (the tower units) are though. I'm saying low-end PCs which a lot of people have are ALSO limitations. And consumers will complain (general consumers). I'm fine, I'm upgrading my 760 (which isn't holding me back in any way as far as FFXIV goes) to a 1080 later on in the year, and looking at getting a new laptop with an i7, 8GB+ RAM, and a GTX 1060. But your general consumer? They will complain, they don't know. And no amount of educating seems to work. So it's not technically limited, but business-wise it's limited. As far as SE are concerned, they're one of the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.
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  4. 01-03-2018 10:53 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Buying just any old PC and complaining you cannot game well or at all on it is like buying a toaster and complaining you cannot bake a pizza in it.
    Agreed alright & it's really thanks to my capability to never cry when the crow calls.
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