Thread: 4.2 Updates from Q&A with Yoshida

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

because people like you whined and moved en masse to gilgamesh because you couldn't handle it being harder. You're assuming the lot of you could even deal with raised difficulty; you couldn't with gordias, nor with midas, and if they increased it, you'd not be able to deal with it again. Challenge, hell. People here complaining about it being easy when hard literally killed the raid scene and took not just easing savage difficulty down with the last tier of HW, it took a big streamlining of the entire pve rotation too.

Excuse you. Do you know me? Considering I only started playing several months after Gordias released, it's no wonder a level 13 Monk couldn't handle it. I didn't start raiding until Creator. And yes, I sucked back then. You wanna know what I did, I put in the effort to improve and now am progging Ultimate; content harder than Gordias or Midas. It's almost like if you have a willingness to improve, you will. Funny now that works. Creator had a higher clear rate than Neo. You know, before they implemented all the rotation streamlining. So... that wasn't why they did it. I also like how you immediately jump to the only tier where the devs outright acknowledged they didn't test it properly. Even people who cleared Gordias agreed, it wasn't well balanced. That doesn't mean they can shoot for an in-between surrounding Creator and Midas.

I've also never been on Gilgamesh, by the way.

So you didn't just swing and miss with this post. The bat slipped entirely from your grasp. Such in the danger with those baseless assumptions...

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

the ps4 isn't that powerful, they were just able to optimize for it, i'm not really surprised they think it has issues, especially since, in the CPU department, the PS3 was stronger.

No, it's not. People love to say mythical things about the PS3 CPU, but the PS4 crushes it at everything except very specialized tasks for lower cost. Why do you think Sony threw out the PS3's cell architecture entirely with the PS4 instead of iterating on it (and for that matter, why do you think IBM abandoned it)?

Answer: Ask any developer who had to work on it about how great it really was and get ready for them to rant.

Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

Paraphrasing: Consoles being limited, but PCs easy to upgrade

Not all PCs are easy to upgrade. There's desktops that are locked down tight and can't be upgraded, due to soldering in of the parts. I know Macs do it for example (I think there's a couple of Windows machines that do it too but don't quote me on that). Plus, most laptops aren't a simple upgrade either, you have to once again buy an entire new PC, and that isn't done for next to nothing. So, by the same token, PCs are limitations too. And yes, both my desktop and laptop are capable of playing it quite comfortably without a limiting experience (both have i7, desktop has 16GB RAM + GTX 760, laptop has 8GB RAM and GTX 960m), but let's be fair PCs can be just as limiting. My laptop for example, it's a sealed off unit, most things soldered in.

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

And people hated pharos sirius and left it en masse whenever it popped up, if I recall. the same people who talk about raids being too easy will complain about how people can't even do a basic farm party. What do you think happens when you suddenly raise the difficulty then? If expert got harder, it wouldn't be more fun for you, because anything in this game is only a challenge once; after that its a nuisance.

Alright, let's rip the bandage off: people hated and left it because they couldn't handle it. Just like Aurum Vale. And Steps of Faith. And Weeping City. And Rabanastre. All content notorious for being remotely challenging, if not simply punishing for carelessness. People have become too used to faceroll content, and if it can't be facerolled or outgeared, they avoid it like an allergy. It literally takes SE either dumbing it down repeatedly or packing it with rewards to get people to do it. And it hurts inside to remember there were petitions to NOT nerf Weeping City or Shinryu. Normal Shinryu.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

It's almost like if you have a willingness to improve, you will. Funny now that works.

I don't know how to describe this wonderful feeling you've given me by saying this. Definitely made me smile for the first time today.

Originally Posted by Theodric

Most people I know absolutely loathe doing roulettes and literally only do them because they're the most efficient way to cap their weekly tomes. If harder dungeons were introduced with a compelling incentive I have no doubt that they would be successful. One thing that could be done is encouraging bosses to be killed in a specific way for achievements - which is one of the few things I miss about WoW. Once every dungeon achievement is completed that player can walk away with a prestigious mount, minion or title.

This is basically me; I avoid doing any roulettes once I’ve capped because I consider the content to be stale.

Something I observed during an attempted Floor 200 PotD run was one of the mobs (Deep Palace Biloko), when it aggro’d onto the tank in the group who was already tanking one mob, the new Biloko actually casted and applied Stoneskin onto the other mob. I thought that was a very interesting mechanic. Add something like priority mobs to dungeons that buff the other mobs or heal them, and that could make the expert dungeons more interesting (I’ve noticed that the developers have done away with the mobs that would heal other mobs, like some of the conjurers in solo-instances that you needed to prioritize killing first so that they didn’t spam heal the others). Give us more threatening mobs like the Deep Palace Chimeras where you need to stun/silence their Ram’s Voice/Dragon’s Voice to avoid damage that actually hurts (and not just a DoT or Paralysis debuff that are more of an annoyance than anything else); that would also make BRD/MCH role skills more useful since there would actually be a need for a stun or silence in place of, say, Second Wind.

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

I don't think this works. If it were farm party ex primal difficulty, it would end up taking longer and being more frustrating to do. And you'd end up with the same result, it would be just as tedious in the same way farm parties are just as tedious despite it being harder content. Its just people forgive them more since they give mounts and bis, and don't have to be done every week. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of people would just stick with the easy dungeons.

Why do people always jump to “Savage-level difficulty dungeons” whenever anyone suggests to make them slightly harder? No one has ever suggested dungeons be on a Savage-level. They just want them to not be something you can semi-AFK in the middle of and still clear.

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I don't think it's so much wanting to stroke their own egos but exactly what Bourne said. Remember when "Expert" roulette was a challenge? Pharos Sirius does. Remember Second Coil? Remember Crystal Tower? Sure, they were a headache back in their respective times, but not only were they fun, they were fun because they were a challenge. However comma for anyone who's been around for a while, well, even someone who hasn't, steadily watching the bar get lower isn't enjoyable. At this point, I almost feel punished for pushing myself to be good at the game. I'm not the best, and sure there's far better players, but at some point it really starts to feel like there's no point in being good when you can just sit and wait for the handout or the bar to be lowered.

Couldn't have summarized it better. What I find irksome is how whenever you claim something too easy, someone inevitably rushes to mention Gordias. One of my all time favourite instances in this game is Weeping City. Nowhere near Savage level difficulty but something that still posed a nice challenge. I am far from the best player myself, which is why I always advocate anyone can improve if I can. I started out as someone who once struggled with Sophia. I didn't just suddenly become better, I worked towards my goal and pushed myself—something anyone can do. It just sucks seeing your endeavors to improve are met with easing the content because someone else couldn't be bothered to put in effort.

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I don't know how to describe this wonderful feeling you've given me by saying this. Definitely made me smile for the first time today.

Happy to oblige.

Originally Posted by Tridus

No, it's not. People love to say mythical things about the PS3 CPU, but the PS4 crushes it at everything except very specialized tasks for lower cost. Why do you think Sony threw out the PS3's cell architecture entirely with the PS4 instead of iterating on it (and for that matter, why do you think IBM abandoned it)?

Answer: Ask any developer who had to work on it about how great it really was and get ready for them to rant.

as a CPU, the Cell is superior. the GPU and memory is what held the PS3 back in modern applications.

There are still some ps3 games that look better than modern titles.

About the 33rd largest supercomputer in the world right now is the US Air Force Research Laboratory's (AFRL) newest system, which has a core made of 1,760 Sony PlayStation 3 (PS3) consoles (2010)