Content drought....

[HyoMinPark]

I feel like there's so much hope with Eureka that everyone's going to be disappointed :/

Of course it's SE's fault for not providing enough diverse content that now so many people are betting on Eureka.

Heck even with the achievements suggestion, not that many were added. So even achievement hunters who've been playing a long time probably want more.

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

[AxlStream]

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

That's what's going to cause Eureka the most harm if you ask me. That thing has been talked about by the dev as something borderline revolutionary. Anything short of that will just be outright rejected I feel.

[Deceptus]

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

Basically this. The HW relic was utter garbage for so long because they delayed it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Basically this. The HW relic was utter garbage for so long because they delayed it.

Actually, the HW relic was awful because they attempted to balance it around Savage raids, which just happened to be Gordias and Midas.

[alimdia]

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

Why do they keep doing this? Why the veil of secrecy? This is hurting their game more than it's helping. I get they had to delay it, but considering it was supposed to be launched months ago at the very least they could have talked about it and shown something, instead we have absolutely nothing but hyped words.

My friends list and FC keep getting emptier in terms of active people, and it doesn't seem like SE is concerned at all at the player retention leak.

[Kazrah]

Why do they keep doing this? Why the veil of secrecy? This is hurting their game more than it's helping.

Because the more they ramp up the hype on something, the more of a PR disaster it becomes when it ultimately crashes and burns. There's also factoring in how Diadem got forced out, crashed and burned, and wasn't until 3.5x for it to be properly re-released as something half-decent.

Then between the kinda shaky start for SB, all the content from 4.0x and 4.1, the holidays and the slew of stuff they're going to throw at us for 4.2 next month, I personally don't mind waiting for Eureka if it means not having a Diadem launch.

[HyoMinPark]

Because the more they ramp up the hype on something, the more of a PR disaster it becomes when it ultimately crashes and burns.

The double-edged sword with secrecy is that people don’t know what to expect, so they either assume Diadem 3.0, or assume it’s going to be astounding. And I know, I know, “Don’t have any expectations and you won’t be disappointed”, but people out there have them. Can’t really change that. And both potentially spell disaster: Diadem 3.0 > low hopes for the content; Super Awesome Eureka > disappointment if it crashes and burns.

But, the more they continue to delay Eureka, and the less they tell anyone about it (other than how awesome and never-before-seen it’s supposed to be), the more people are going to get incredibly frustrated over it. So much so that, when it does come out, if it doesn’t absolutely blow people away, they will pick and pick until they dig up every fault with the content. No matter how small.

There's also factoring in how Diadem got forced out, crashed and burned, and wasn't until 3.5x for it to be properly re-released as something half-decent.

I can only hope the developers learned a lot from Diadem, 1.0 and 2.0. Neither were that great; 2.0 died nearly as quickly as 1.0 did once people got in there, did the EM a few times, and got the goodies. More interest was shown in Trials of the Matron, because it was a gatherer’s paradise when it came to scrips and old ARR timed nodes.

Just...I really hope Eureka isn’t full of FATEs. That’s the main thing I want: no FATEs. Please.

[Kazrah]

Just...I really hope Eureka isn’t full of FATEs. That’s the main thing I want: no FATEs. Please.

Now that I'll agree on.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Because the more they ramp up the hype on something, the more of a PR disaster it becomes when it ultimately crashes and burns. There's also factoring in how Diadem got forced out, crashed and burned, and wasn't until 3.5x for it to be properly re-released as something half-decent.

Then between the kinda shaky start for SB, all the content from 4.0x and 4.1, the holidays and the slew of stuff they're going to throw at us for 4.2 next month, I personally don't mind waiting for Eureka if it means not having a Diadem launch.

Personally, I have just stopped caring about Eureka because they have given me absolutely no reason to. I wager people would be somewhat satisfied with small updates. Show us what it looks like, an idea of what we'll be doing or explain why there have been frequent delays. Just a little form of transparency will go a long way for most people. The worst to happen is general apathy. Once people reach that stage, it becomes increasingly harder to win them back. I honestly see people unsubbing if Eureka flops. And not a low number either. They've done so little hyping it that anything short of amazing just isn't going to resonate well.

Content droughts are common in any themepark MMO. It's always gonna exist, because new stuff can't physically come out as fast as some players can consume it.

To be fair, 4.1 feels so lackluster because they focused virtually all their attention on niche content. Had they dropped any one of Perform, Rival Wings or Ultimate and said something along the lines of, "We apologize, but the vision we had for Eureka simply has a much larger scope than we anticipated. So we'll be releasing the initial relic step separately." I suspect people would be far less frustrated.