Content drought....

[Squintina]

Most of what you listed is pointless content. hunt logs, sight seeing and achievements aren't really what I personally consider enjoyable content.

Achievement hunting isn't really content, considering achievements like the Gold Saucer Jumbo Cactpot one exist.

Just because it's not content that people particularly enjoy, or they find it pointless, doesn't mean it's not content. It's just content you don't enjoy (like me with pvp, I don't enjoy it, and I do find it pointless, but it's still content, just not content I'd do very often)
Is doing an achievement that requires doing instances multiple times really that different from Wondrous Tails (which generally people do consider to be content), or from doing relic quests?

You're all certainly free to find them pointless and not want to do them, but it's still a form of content.
After all, I've met some people who only do hunts because they want the mount reward. The achievement is giving them a reason to go do something in order to get a reward, it's a form of content.

The problem is the lack of more diverse forms of long term content, and that there needs to be more effort to make older content relevant.

[Ayer2015]

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The game lacks systems with real long term grind. Hopefully Eureka addresses this, because It has always been an problem with this game.

[Squintina]

The game lacks systems with real long term grind. Hopefully Eureka addresses this, because It has always been an problem with this game.

I feel like there's so much hope with Eureka that everyone's going to be disappointed :/

Of course it's SE's fault for not providing enough diverse content that now so many people are betting on Eureka.

Heck even with the achievements suggestion, not that many were added. So even achievement hunters who've been playing a long time probably want more.

[HyoMinPark]

I feel like there's so much hope with Eureka that everyone's going to be disappointed :/

Of course it's SE's fault for not providing enough diverse content that now so many people are betting on Eureka.

Heck even with the achievements suggestion, not that many were added. So even achievement hunters who've been playing a long time probably want more.

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

[AxlStream]

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

That's what's going to cause Eureka the most harm if you ask me. That thing has been talked about by the dev as something borderline revolutionary. Anything short of that will just be outright rejected I feel.

[Deceptus]

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

Basically this. The HW relic was utter garbage for so long because they delayed it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Basically this. The HW relic was utter garbage for so long because they delayed it.

Actually, the HW relic was awful because they attempted to balance it around Savage raids, which just happened to be Gordias and Midas.

[alimdia]

I feel like the problem with Eureka is that, it’s been delayed for so long that, if it fails to be anything but astonishing, it’s going to be under even more scrutiny because it was delayed at least twice, and the developers haven’t revealed much other than it’s supposed to be some amazing new type of content never before seen in an MMO.

Why do they keep doing this? Why the veil of secrecy? This is hurting their game more than it's helping. I get they had to delay it, but considering it was supposed to be launched months ago at the very least they could have talked about it and shown something, instead we have absolutely nothing but hyped words.

My friends list and FC keep getting emptier in terms of active people, and it doesn't seem like SE is concerned at all at the player retention leak.

[Kazrah]

Why do they keep doing this? Why the veil of secrecy? This is hurting their game more than it's helping.

Because the more they ramp up the hype on something, the more of a PR disaster it becomes when it ultimately crashes and burns. There's also factoring in how Diadem got forced out, crashed and burned, and wasn't until 3.5x for it to be properly re-released as something half-decent.

Then between the kinda shaky start for SB, all the content from 4.0x and 4.1, the holidays and the slew of stuff they're going to throw at us for 4.2 next month, I personally don't mind waiting for Eureka if it means not having a Diadem launch.