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  1. #71
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondOrion View Post
    I don't think
    Therein lies the problem.
    (13)
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  2. #72
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.
    Me <3 you long time.
    (3)
    Last edited by Lauront; 01-01-2018 at 01:30 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  3. #73
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    SavageCipher's Avatar
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    Minerva Prime
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 66
    Said bad players have several options;

    Google
    Youtube
    Reading their spells + Common sense.

    If after all that, they can't seem to be performing well...

    Then you can't fix stupid and move on.
    (3)

  4. #74
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I agree with you on helping teach others as far as the basics of a proper rotation goes. The strange attack patterns and "rotations" I've seen from other party members have astoundingly went up since Stormblood's release.

    The problem is people don't take initiatives to read up guides or desire to improve like you do.

    You can refer players to reputable guide providers like MTQCapture, MrHappy, Xenosys Vex, Graehl, or some detailed written/video guide that literally spills the secrets on how fights work move by move, phase by phase. The issue is that the people who could use the battle hints still don't want to spoil or improve their knowledge of the higher-end battles.

    You can provide links to the best linkshells, free companies, discords, or other forms of voice chat to communicate, teach, socialize, and/or share new stuff that could help improve gameplay. The problem is that some of people who probably could use those mediums to improve simply do not care at the end of the day.
    (1)
    My Current Characters:
    Mikeru Takeuchi: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/14812205/
    Ekkusu Volnutt: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/8909941/
    Rokku Sigma: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5714962/

    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

  5. #75
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    Settiesama's Avatar
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    Character
    Setsuna Tribal
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    You can refer players to "reputable" guide providers like MrHappy
    Never send anyone to MrHappy unless you can't stand their guts.
    (4)
    Last edited by Settiesama; 01-01-2018 at 05:46 AM.

  6. #76
    Player
    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    My Happy may not have the most ideal guides ever, but he does explain the gist of how the boss battles work, albeit nowhere near as detailed as MTQCapture or Xenosys Vex.

    I do remember the Garuda Extreme guide Mr Happy has been criticized for. Mr Happy's guide had the MT tank both Garuda and Suparna. That would mean a Double Wicked Wheel having a high chance of killing non-tanks (heck Garuda's Wicked Wheel alone would knock out a non-tank at the relevant item level 65-90.) However, no other video guide showed that the "intended" triangle stat that JP players tend to use to minimize stress on the main tanks and melee players.

    I will say that Mr Happy's best written guide IMO is his Sophia Extreme guide. That guide showed the square tiles being used as the place to stand while there will be a small tilt happening, among other things. (and those areas are where the waymarks were placed at the time the battle was relevant in 3.4 and 3.5 patches.)
    (1)
    My Current Characters:
    Mikeru Takeuchi: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/14812205/
    Ekkusu Volnutt: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/8909941/
    Rokku Sigma: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5714962/

    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

  7. #77
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    AxlStream's Avatar
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    MrHappy isn't something I'd call reliable as far as guides go.
    (4)

  8. #78
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    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Character
    Selena Schwarz
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Not interested in teaching someone who doesn't want to learn.
    (3)

  9. #79
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Some of us do try to help. And then we get called an elitist. Then, when we stop helping because we get tired of being called an elitist, we are called an elitist again. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
    If you see the other person as an equal and are genuine about your desire to assist them, you are not an elitist.

    You become an elitist when anyone and everyone who doesn't meet your performance standards isn't worth your time.
    (1)

  10. #80
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    Newie's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Lex Thunder
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    All I can say about this Matter is, dont stop to help even if you meet people that are rude, if so thats their loss, not everyone is Like that. If you dont help people because you think most of them dont want help its the same as if you were that Player that dont want to make an effort to learn. Because you dont want to make an effort yourself.
    (3)

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