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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    I get the reasons to have it if someone is underperforming in a tough fight and you gotta know who, but it will also be used in everything if it is official and easily accessible. . . .When it's an officially supported tool that's in game someone will have it in every content, dungeons, trials, it doesn't matter.
    What if a supported parser was added, but it only functioned in Extreme trials, Savage, and Ultimate? Because that’s honestly the only place it’s really needed, and it would be a compromise to keep it out of the more casual dungeons and 24-mans. I’ve always liked the idea someone suggested in one of the older parser debate threads where it was a toggable PF feature, and there was an icon in the PF’s description for Extremes/Savage/Ultimate showing that parsers are going to be used in that party. That way, people who hate them don’t have to partake in a party that is using a supported one, and people that want them for the harder content can have them.

    It will become ok to tell someone they are bad or not up to that persons expectations because SE made it ok. I know people will be jerks and single out others either way but I don't want to give them the tools to do it. I mean if they are doing it now there's at least the argument that they aren't allowed to do that, but again if it's official then they have every right to do it and to an extent, every right to point fingers and single someone out. There are pros there are cons, and I lean towards keeping parsers out
    It will not be okay for people to harass others over their parser numbers. Harassment isn’t going to suddenly be okay if parsers are supported and implemented in-game. That won’t change.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    It will not be okay for people to harass others over their parser numbers. Harassment isn’t going to suddenly be okay if parsers are supported and implemented in-game. That won’t change.
    Saying "I'm sorry your numbers aren't up to our standards, and since your gear is decent, we think you should check out some rotation guides and try again later" proceeding a kick from the content isn't harassment.
    Likewise "Your numbers are low" also isn't harassment.

    "git gud scrub" may be, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Saying "I'm sorry your numbers aren't up to our standards, and since your gear is decent, we think you should check out some rotation guides and try again later" proceeding a kick from the content isn't harassment.
    Likewise "Your numbers are low" also isn't harassment.

    "git gud scrub" may be, though.
    I know. I was referring more to the usual remarks of parser-related harassment, such as: “Why are you only doing 3k DPS on a SAM, you scrub. God, just uninstall the game now, pleb.” Not general ones about improvement before tackling content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I know. I was referring more to the usual remarks of parser-related harassment, such as: “Why are you only doing 3k DPS on a SAM, you scrub. God, just uninstall the game now, pleb.” Not general ones about improvement before tackling content.
    The problem is,most of people,even if you tell them nicely,will just get mad if you tell them the numbers are not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    The problem is,most of people,even if you tell them nicely,will just get mad if you tell them the numbers are not good.
    They need to start acting like adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    They need to start acting like adults.
    I would like to,but the FF playerbase is largely the "im offended" type,i had a static once,a player was totaly underperforming,he told me " i dont see why i should improve since we killed it" the thing is,he was 6th rank in dps in the group.without a parse,we would have no clue he was bad,and never wanted to improve.
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