This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[Sebazy]

If you understood my point, you wouldnt have posted what you did. I was not condoning or condemning parsers. Pointing out that there are ups and downs. That there WILL be people who will use it to attack others. And your response/inference was "I havent personally seen it, so must not be happening."

You're reading what you want to hear. I never said it doesn't happen, rather that I've never seen it first hand. I'm inferring that it doesn't happen anything like as frequently as the nay sayers would have us believe.

Youre second anecdotal point actually bears out my argument. Players who have a high opinion of themselves take the data from the parser and use it as a means of attacking other players. Im not suggesting that we shouldnt have parsers.

Again, you're not reading what I'm saying.

My anecdotal point goes against your argument. Why? The guy wasn't parsing. He was just trolling. It had nothing to do with parsing and everything to do with the guy being an idiot.

Look at it this way:

John goes to his local corner store, tells the assistant that he's got a knife in his sleeve and he'll attack them if they don't hand over the contents of the till.

By your method of thinking, the solution is to ban knives and shoo John on. Of course this doesn't actually work, because John would just pretend to have a bat or a gun next time.

The actual solution is to threaten or actually lock John up, something that happens both in reality and in game thankfully.

Furthermore, you will most likely see an increase in toxicity if it became a part of the game for two reasons. 1 is Greater access, means more trolls statistically, and two it will be argued that because its an official part of the game, it can be used as a means to weed out players from groups. This phenomenon has happened in other MMOs via other superficial additions. In WoW, when achievements were added, people soon were required to 'link their achievement' in order to join a group for content. No achievement, no access.

Anyone would think you were trying to predict Brexit

On the flipside to your arguments, the entire and rather considerable PS4 player base would get fair and equal access to real time parsing not to mention a lot more players overall would be more likely to spot and promptly take an interest in their own performance. These would statistically shunt the average level of play upwards, decreasing the need for toxicity in the process.

Your point about achievements is absolutely meaningless too, achievement requirements when applying to the top raiding FCs were a requirement pretty much from the get go, long before parsers were a thing. Didn't have Titan cleared? There's the door.

The devs are entirely aware of it, thus why Savage has been dumbed down to a shadow of what Gordias and Midas were, again, nothing to do with parsing. SE just want to make the majority of raids as accessible as they can to suit the player base as a whole.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think adding a group wide parser into the game on par with what PC users already have is the right move. The various threads on this topic show that a very substantial chunk of the community just doesn't want it for whatever reason and that's something we all have to appreciate and respect. Thus a discrete self only parser is the better approach to take as it ticks most boxes and fills the gaps that are currently missing.

In short, parsers aren't the problem here, they are just a scapegoat for the real issue that prevails in most modern MMOs:

The lack of fair common decency, consideration and respect within the wider community as a whole.

Remove DPS entirely from the equation and we'd just have threads about people getting chewed out over getting clipped by an AoE or failing a mechanic instead.

By comparison, adding a self only parser into the game client itself would change relatively little in the grand scheme of things, but it'd hand those that want to improve themselves the tool to do so. As far as reference points go, the player base can take care of that itself. With an official tool in game, there's nothing to stop friends from comparing and sharing data if and when they chose to.

Holy moly that got long winded!