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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    Anecdotal experiences that say "I havent experienced it, therefore it does not happen" is not the same as anecdotal experiences of "Ive experienced it, so it must be happening on some level."

    One is saying their experience is an absolute, the other is saying that their experience is proof that is is occurring in some capacity. So its nto canceling the other out. The second experience is outright refuting the first due to the applications of those experiences.
    I have to disagree, Neither Bourne nor Sebazy seem to be saying "I don't see it, so it never happens." but asking for evidence that it happens and this is mostly due to perception. I'm merely taking a stab here, but I think it's a little on the money. But they may not see it due to them being in groups that use a parser either personally or responsibly. So it is not that they are saying "I've never seen this so it must never happen." but more "I've never seen this, can you please provide me an example so I can understand. Because the groups I run don't do this." if that makes any sense. Meanwhile, our perception is that we have been in groups that have jackholes that do use parsers in a abusive manner so we do know it happens and have either been victims of it or know victims of it and that can color one's perception in a discussion like this. But, like all tools, it is subject to abuse by some. A hammer is a tool but some will use it as a weapon. (No, I'm not gonna use the "Should we ban all hammers?!" argument, that's silly.)

    Personally, I wish people wouldn't be huge dicks to eachother and we could all get along and hug it out! So, I don't like the idea of leaving a possible tool of abuse on the table. But we don't, so there isn't much I can do other then report those who use the hammer to kill people rather then pound in some nails. Sooner or later, either you'll weed out enough of the jerks that they won't be a problem anymore or the jerks will get the message and either shut up or tone down. But again, the majority shouldn't be punished for the acts of the minority.
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    Last edited by StarRosie; 01-03-2018 at 11:02 AM.