This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[HyoMinPark]

Not much of point to reveal them either if you have uploaded nothing in there.

Well, if you have no uploads, then why go through the trouble of hiding nothing? I don’t really understand what you’re getting at, to be honest. Maybe because I’m tired.

[HaroldSaxon]

Trust me, the way that tank acted is reportable. I got a warning for less.

So you are saying that kicking players for poor performance is reportable, meanwhile, there are players that SE are aware of using a Ruin 4 hack or speedhacks that are still not banned.

Says it all.

[Anzaman]

Well, if you have no uploads, then why go through the trouble of hiding nothing? I don’t really understand what you’re getting at, to be honest. Maybe because I’m tired.

There was few, but those weren't uploaded by me.

Mostly just some 24-man uploads, Rabanastre and older raids since I haven't PF'd savage.

[HyoMinPark]

There was few, but those weren't uploaded by me.

Mostly just some 24-man uploads, Rabanastre and older raids since I haven't PF'd savage.

To be fair, people generally don’t care about the 24-man parses, or even Extremes really. A lot of people just look at current Savage parses when they’re looking at people for things like statics or analyzing performance. That being said, a good person will analyze them thoroughly, and not just look at your median average or your worst parses and say, “Well, that person is garbage.”

[Sebazy]

There was few, but those weren't uploaded by me.

Mostly just some 24-man uploads, Rabanastre and older raids since I haven't PF'd savage.

Why are you concerned if that's all you have there?

Do you feel that potential grey logs there will reflect badly on how people perceive you if/when you progress towards Savage?

If that is the case, have you considered taking along a friend to upload if needed and simply knuckling down and ensuring that you have some decent runs there? Getting high percentile runs there is surprisingly easy IMHO.

[Anzaman]

Why are you concerned if that's all you have there?

Do you feel that potential grey logs there will reflect badly on how people perceive you if/when you progress towards Savage?

Eh - only did Savage since friends asked to, got no interest in doing it with PF -groups.

So having it any possible data in FFLogs hidden won't harm you in any way.

[HyoMinPark]

Eh - only did Savage since friends asked to, got no interest in doing it with PF -groups.

So having it any possible data in FFLogs hidden won't harm you in any way.

Eh, but at the same time, people will just assume you have something to hide when you hide them. It doesn’t give them an opportunity to judge the logs in an unbiased manner if they choose to properly analyze them.

[Sebazy]

Eh - only did Savage since friends asked to, got no interest in doing it with PF -groups.

And I repeat my question, why are you concerned if that's all you have there?

This isn't me 'having a go' or such, I'm pretty much perma AFK these days so makes no odds to me personally, it's just an interesting topic.

[Lazaruz]

Yes, maybe some people without logs hope for a carry. Maybe some people without a clear are hoping for a carry. But that doesn't include everyone and it just rubbed me the wrong way.

You know.... I couldnt agree more with this.

Much like how not everyone who parses is a toxic kid who will rage at you over your numbers, not everyone who hides their logs are doing it just because there's something to hide or because they "want a carry"

I've seen the argument pop up plenty where people want to be able to judge their own performance, and their performance alone via parsing software and guess what, I'm not denying anyone that ability by hiding my logs. What I am doing is denying them the ability to make a erroneous assumption about my ability to play, just because of one bad log that got uploaded without my concent, or a good one that didnt get uploaded.

Regardless, I have no interest in the endgame level content, where most people agree that a parse is necessary. So if anyone resent me because you dont have "proof" that I'm playing at the level you want, go ahead. I'll let my actions do the talking instead of just raw data without context.

*Drops mic, leaves thread, since I already got bopped once for stepping on someone's nerve*

[HyoMinPark]

You know.... I couldnt agree more with this.

Much like how not everyone who parses is a toxic kid who will rage at you over your numbers, not everyone who hides their logs are doing it just because there's something to hide or because they "want a carry"

This (the bolded statement) is in direct contradiction with what you said earlier:

Think of it this way. How many toxic assholes are not being toxic just because they're afraid someone will report them for parsing?

I've seen the argument pop up plenty where people want to be able to judge their own performance, and their performance alone via parsing software and guess what, I'm not denying anyone that ability by hiding my logs. What I am doing is denying you the ability to make a erroneous assumption about my ability to play, just because of one bad log that got uploaded without my concent, or a good one that didnt get uploaded.

And, I say again, hiding your logs removes the ability for people too look into those greys and see why they’re grey in the first place. Bad comp? Lots of deaths? Poor healers? Poor tanks? Poor rotation? They can’t see any of that because you hid them, so they’re going to just assume you have something to hide.

Regardless, I have no interest in the endgame level content, where most people agree that a parse is necessary. So if you resent me because you dont have "proof" that I'm not playing at the level you want, go ahead. I'll let my actions do the talking instead of just raw data without context.

Then...why are you in parser discussions anyways? Parsing doesn’t matter in dungeons or 24-mans, only Extremes and Savage content. Which you don’t do. So if there was an in-game parser that functioned in Extremes/Savages/Ultimate, why would you care because you aren’t doing that content?