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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakiko View Post
    Then, I'm in the minority. I get that you want parties that can clear and where everyone pulls their weight. I just take issue with the generalization that because someone doesn't have FFLogs means that person is looking for a carry. It's not true 100% of the time. I don't know, I guess it's just different expectations from the game. To me, it sounds extremely elitist that someone has to have a third party item as "proof" or they "deserve" a blacklist.
    There is nothing elitist for expecting people joining a farm party to be able to pull their weight. Being able to check that someone can perform at a basic competency saves time and makes things more efficient.

    EDIT: And yes, if you join a farm looking to be carried, you do deserve the kick and blacklist (especially if you haven't cleared yet). Its disrespectful to those who have put in the time and effort to get things on farm and they can definitely take steps to avoid having to deal with a player like that.
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    Last edited by PArcher; 12-31-2017 at 05:09 AM.

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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    There is nothing elitist for expecting people joining a farm party to be able to pull their weight. Being able to check that someone can perform at a basic competency saves time and makes things more efficient.
    I don't disagree that having people in a farm party who can pull their weight and competently complete the content isn't elitist. That wasn't even what I was calling elitist in my post you quoted. However, my counter to you would then be: why not join a static, or an fc, or a group of friends and farm, rather than rely on PF which can bring you people you find less desirable and not up to your standards (standards which are subjective to every player).
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    Last edited by Kakiko; 12-31-2017 at 05:09 AM. Reason: clarity
    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakiko View Post
    I don't disagree that having people in a farm party who can pull their weight and competently complete the content isn't elitist. That wasn't even what I was calling elitist in my post you quoted. However, my counter to you would then be: why not join a static, or an fc, or a group of friends and farm, rather than rely on PF which can bring you people you find less desirable and not up to your standards (standards which are subjective to every player).
    Because there aren't 7 people in my FC that are on who want to go farm it.

    Because I don't have 7 friends on that want to go out and farm it.

    Maybe the static isn't on for the farm because it's not schedule'd.
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