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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baalfrog View Post
    Like in the case of the OP and how 3 of 4 dpses did less than tanks, from SEs standpoint, the group did the thing, they beat the challenge they set for the encounter and thats all that matters to them.
    They didn't complete the encounter, not until 3 DPS were kicked from the group. Which 'supposedly' was a rules violation according to SE. That's why its weird. Even though booting the DPS and getting better ones could potentially make the run a success.

    If a tank dies to a tank buster because they didn't use a CD, they can be booted for it. No violation of any rules. If a DPS does too little damage and you use a parser to determine that (since its the only way to do so), and boot them for doing too little. Despite that being just as important and vital as a tank using a CD, its considered 'harassment'.

    Of course I use quotes because its still hearsay to me, I've never seen an instance of someone being actioned for this personally.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    They didn't complete the encounter, not until 3 DPS were kicked from the group. Which 'supposedly' was a rules violation according to SE. That's why its weird. Even though booting the DPS and getting better ones could potentially make the run a success..
    As long as nothing is said in chat about the parse when kicking, there's nothing that can be reported. GMs have said you can boot someone for differing playstyles (so if they say, "this isn't working out, we need to find other people" its perfectly fine to kick)
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    Alysanai Holt
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    They didn't complete the encounter, not until 3 DPS were kicked from the group. Which 'supposedly' was a rules violation according to SE. That's why its weird. Even though booting the DPS and getting better ones could potentially make the run a success.

    If a tank dies to a tank buster because they didn't use a CD, they can be booted for it. No violation of any rules. If a DPS does too little damage and you use a parser to determine that (since its the only way to do so), and boot them for doing too little. Despite that being just as important and vital as a tank using a CD, its considered 'harassment'.

    Of course I use quotes because its still hearsay to me, I've never seen an instance of someone being actioned for this personally.
    They did, the log in question has a kill in it.

    Also kicking people cause they are not good enough for your standards and such is not a rules violation, it falls under the "different playstyle" and is perfectly fine with the GMs. Like if im in a dungeon with 3 friends, and the rando we get is Timmy the Icemage, we are in the right to kick them if they don't stop being like that after being told to stop. That said, you don't need to say anything, but since GMs check the chat logs, you might want to say something as to why they are being kicked.
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    Last edited by Baalfrog; 12-31-2017 at 05:37 AM.

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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    If a tank dies to a tank buster because they didn't use a CD, they can be booted for it. No violation of any rules. If a DPS does too little damage and you use a parser to determine that (since its the only way to do so), and boot them for doing too little. Despite that being just as important and vital as a tank using a CD, its considered 'harassment'.
    There's a serious double standard on this stuff. Tank and healer poor play is very, very visible and very, very obvious. DPS are okay with that.

    Parsers make DPS poor play very, very obvious. DPS think that's massively unfair, elitist, and toxic.

    DPS then wonder why they have 20 minute queues waiting for tanks and healers.
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