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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I will say this.. SE is weird. So... enrage timers became a thing because of parsing in EQ and damage meter addons in WoW. Since players found optimal rotations and means of DPS, they were put in to challenge said players. SE uses enrage timers in FFXIV but doesn't want us to link them or boot people from groups.

    So my question is what does SE expect us to do when 3 DPS in a 8 man are doing less damage than the tanks and the group is hitting the enrage timer? No one is dying, and the tanks and healers are doing quite well, and maybe 1 DPS is doing great. But those 5 need the other 3 to perform to complete the encounter, but can't because of the little damage output.
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    Baalfrog's Avatar
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    Alysanai Holt
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Things.
    It's because of this weird thing they have, that only the group matters and such, which is okay I suppose, but the sum is not larger than its parts. Like in the case of the OP and how 3 of 4 dpses did less than tanks, from SEs standpoint, the group did the thing, they beat the challenge they set for the encounter and thats all that matters to them. Someone on the know about logs and such however can easily determine that the group limped over finishline and basically got carried by the higher performing non-dps roles. In other words, they got carried.

    And this is an interesting problem, because on SE's end everything is fine, people are doing the content. But this will create a split in the community about people wanting to get better and clear clean and faster and have higher number and so on, and then the other group thinks that doing barely enough is good enough because it clears what the developers had in mind.
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    Last edited by Baalfrog; 12-31-2017 at 03:17 AM.