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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    The latest part is what kinda pissed me off too, as i said even with a big mistake and dps being... what did he call that again ? Oh yes, being "grey", the run has been smooth and easy.
    A detrimental mistake like all 4 DPS dying because the other tank failed to levitate on time and didn’t get knocked back during tanks/healers Long Drop would hardly be called “smooth and easy” in a lot of people’s books. If the DPS had been considerably low prior, then that also wouldn’t be considered “smooth and easy” to some. What is “smooth and easy” is different based on the individual.

    I have no doubt it would have become better later with people more warmed up.
    Again, if this is a farm group, sticking it out with low DPS and a tank that got all four killed is probably not the best road to take when you’re looking to farm quickly and efficiently.

    I have seen way worse in training groups with people dying several times and not even reaching 3k dps, and when it happens it is a pleasure to stick with the same guys and see everyone improve as the group sinergy goes up. A thing that dont happen when you kick half of your group after a single run because of fflogs reasons.
    Training groups are different from farm groups. Again, if this group was a farm, behavior that is considered acceptable (lower outgoing damage, deaths, failed mechanics) become less acceptable.

    Seems like you like to twist words too, i am not gonna explain my point again. As for the "slow" run it is the second fastest one i get listed on fflogs, i even have some above ten minutes where i was dpsing more, and i didn't kick anybody for that. Kinda reach again the point of ridiculous expectations, defeating a boss is not enough, you have to do it under x minutes under the enrage timer itself or you are wasting your precious time XD
    I have no idea who this is addressed to since the forum won’t show your post in its entirety unless I hit “Reply with Quote.”

    The entire idea when it comes to farming is to squeeze in as many clears as possible in as short a time frame as possible. If you have two groups, and one is clearing V2S in 7~8 minutes, and the other is clearing in 9~10 minutes, bordering on enrage, most people will choose the first group, because faster clears = more farming potential. That’s how farming works. The 7~8 minute ones are more than likely smoother as well, because shorter duration probably means higher damage output and less mess-ups. People like that in farm groups. The fewer mistakes, the better.

    I don't know where you see that much people dealing 4,5k+ damage, but they sure aren't legion in the groups i end in. The vast majority stay in the 3k range.
    The majority of the farm groups I am in pull numbers like that. That’s not an uncommon occurrence this late in the tier. If your DPS are staying in the 3k range, then they aren’t doing enough because 4k is extremely easy to hit now with proper gear and a proper rotation. (Also, if you don’t parse, then how would you know what numbers others are pulling, unless you just go by uploads?)


    Also, if you just wanted to vent, there’s already a thread for venting about crappy parties. No need to create new ones.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-30-2017 at 02:12 PM.
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