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  1. #171
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    HewreyEden's Avatar
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    Eschew Calamity
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    I mean, I’m pretty sure I didn’t do anything worthy of ‘a few days’ ban’. If someone joins a PF and I’m the leader, I can kick them for any reason whatsoever. I’m not likely to do so unless there is a reason such as inciting another player or poor conduct, but it’s not against the TOS in any way.
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  2. #172
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    Guguulu Laladoga
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    Botanist Lv 80
    Oh, excuse me for not reading the reply before replying. Expected this is another complain thread about parsing. This thread got really interesting lol.
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  3. #173
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    I think every time some dramatic idiot opens a "parsers are bad" thread or tries to justify the idea that parsers breed toxicity I'm just going to link this thread.

    There is no better evidence of where the truly toxic people tend to stand on this sort of issue.
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  4. #174
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Parsers are fine, fflogs is the problem. It brings pvp mentality into pve content. I cant count how many times in farm groups you can clearly tell someone is going for maximum uptime, wont dodge forcing you to move... wont use supportive gcds. Its especially bad among tanks currently for whatever reason, a few days ago i had a 90th percentile pld literally running infront of me with lightning markers on os1 and never used a single clem, cover, or anything... low and behold those runs ended up on fflogs but that was obvious with how he was playing Its so bad lately i dont even feel like running farm groups outside my static.

    I dunno, i know its ultimately the players fault for playing this way but fflogs causes the mentality.
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  5. #175
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    So you are saying that kicking players for poor performance is reportable, meanwhile, there are players that SE are aware of using a Ruin 4 hack or speedhacks that are still not banned.

    Says it all.
    You can kick poor players from parties just fine (it's considered "Differences in Playstyle", even though there's no actual option like that when vote-kicking), you just can't say it in a rude or obnoxious way.
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  6. #176
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    I would say anyone who even remotely defends that tanks behavior is just being almost as bad as he was. Nobody can defend that, and saying your dps "sucked" when you're doing plenty for the content is just stupid.
    Well this forum turns into a playfield for elitists more and more anyways, a post literally saying "people are allowed to be an ass, when your dps is ass too." getting 40 likes just tells it all about this forum.
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  7. #177
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Well this forum turns into a playfield for elitists more and more anyways, a post literally saying "people are allowed to be an ass, when your dps is ass too." getting 40 likes just tells it all about this forum.
    I love how you both support the OP for spreading bullshit. Like, at least read whats going on. I like how more and more players with that attitude of yours comes into the light too. speaks volum how far people go just to try get someone in a bad spot. But since you mostlikely wont read what happened I'll copy paste it to you both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangster85 View Post
    I feel I should participate in this thread (I'm the Warrior, btw) as this thread was brought to my attention by my FC.
    Where did I kick you for doing poor DPS? We even killed it once, even though your performance is questionable at best, and nobody kicked you. I got 3 static friends that wanted to join for some late night fun. I have never kicked a person for low performance, if anyone deserved a kick in that group its the Paladin who killed all the DPS.

    I haven't read any rules that forbid me to play with my friends, if I offended you then its not my intent. With that said however....

    If you feel to bring up the DPS being the reason you got kicked, perhaps that is something you should improve on, rather than sit at your throughput level and point fingers how others are rude, mean and derogatory towards you on the internet. I personally prefer the option to find a guide on someone good, and learn from their knowledge they freely share with the community.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 01-01-2018 at 12:04 AM.

  8. #178
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Well this forum turns into a playfield for elitists more and more anyways, a post literally saying "people are allowed to be an ass, when your dps is ass too." getting 40 likes just tells it all about this forum.
    Because god forbid DPS get held to very fair and reasonable standards eh?

    If you genuinely feel that expecting DPS jobs to do more DPS than a Tank in an encounter that's pretty much an ~eight minute target dummy is in anyway elitist or even just unfair then frankly I have no words for you.

    At the end of the day, this is a team game and in proper raid content I'd like to think that players are obligated to at least put a baseline amount of effort into performing at a reasonable standard.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 01-01-2018 at 01:20 AM.
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    Honestly, before players complain about parsing, they need to make sure they know how to do their rotations. By level 50,you should already know.... There is no reason to not be hitting at least 2.5k in savage just doing your rotations, without even considering buffs on 310 gear. None whatsoever.
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  10. #180
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    Eyliria Dawnbreaker
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Honestly, before players complain about parsing, they need to make sure they know how to do their rotations. By level 50,you should already know.... There is no reason to not be hitting at least 2.5k in savage just doing your rotations, without even considering buffs on 310 gear. None whatsoever.
    I get what you are saying... but by level 50 most people are missing at least 3-4 key abilities and mechanics... so, no, they won't know their level cap rotations by then.. or, if you're doing your level 50 rotation @ 70... theyll be doing 2.5k in 330 gear.
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