This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[akaneakki]

Since this thread is about people being a-holes, let me demostrate a bit about players without one, then you can tell them to stay away from the game, because that's what the game apperently did to them. So FF14 makes people bad?


Tank loses aggro when I only do 1 holy on adds. His attitude? lol.
Ignoring people when I ask them if they know mechanics.


[15:13](Akane Wymer) heal lmao
[15:14](Akane Wymer) you were just standing there most of time
[15:14](Akane Wymer) ._.
[15:14](Yal) Are you blind
[15:15](Akane Wymer) why medica 2
[15:15]() Shut your fooking mouth little cunt !! You're a pussy ! ¨

Yeah boys, its apperently ONLY parser people who are toxic? Want me to most more?

[DeaconMoore]

This again?

Jerks will be jerks.

Good news though, play on a ps4 and only with other ps4 players and you can have your parser free "safe" space.

[akaneakki]

Another one:

[HyoMinPark]

Elitist jerks and toxicity aren't gonna be a problem if SE add a parse to the game... yeah right

You do realize that elitism and acting like a jerk aren’t exclusive to people who parse, nor is such behavior always parser related, right? What that tank said is tame compared to some of the crap I see in my weekly Rabanasty runs.

That being said, even with the DPS having just 1 death a piece, a tank shouldn’t be pulling higher than them with just one death, even if there is some gear discrepancies. Tank’s attitude may not be the best, but if this was for a V2S Farm group (not a learning), then he has some reason to complain when one death puts all the DPS except the NIN beneath him. (Even if he didn’t explicitly say “farm”, if he used the “Duty Complete” tag, or the “Loot” tag, those mean for farming; “Duty Completion” is learning/clear tags.)

Also, if it was his PF, he can kick players for whatever reasons he deems fit. His PF, his rules. PLD screwed up and caused a mess that took away time from healer’s DPSing and killed all 4 DPS? He can kick him. You don’t have to like it, but he can do it.

3,5k-4k is way more than enough for o2s

For DPS? No, not really. Depending on your ilvl, you should be at 4k consistently, if not higher. My first clear for V2S was about 3.5k, but I was in 310 Verity gear and a few 320 Genta pieces. And I’m not an uber level BRD either. If you’re in mostly 330 with 340, yours should be much higher than 3.5~4k. Especially MCH because they deal pretty decent damage right now.

That you recognize room for improvement is good, but to settle for 3.5~4k DPS in a fight where people are doing minimum 1k more than that... don’t settle.

[Nedkel]

I would just give up and rage quit, if my dps keeps dying and do less dmg than me. :f

Not only you have to lead the run, and keep the aggro and yourself alive managing various cds abilities, but also keep pushing the run? Do they pay him extra for overdoing his job? lol

[Mimilu]

While the tank's behavior was obnoxious and reportable, nothing in the story or chat logs that you posted indicated that it was parser related... >x>

[Kleeya]

I have no issues with people getting their props for doing well, or ejecting a scrub from their midst who is just wants a free ride but I feel that it takes away from the actual point of the duty, which is to kill what you're aiming at.

The latest part is what kinda pissed me off too, as i said even with a big mistake and dps being... what did he call that again ? Oh yes, being "grey", the run has been smooth and easy. I have no doubt it would have become better later with people more warmed up. I have seen way worse in training groups with people dying several times and not even reaching 3k dps, and when it happens it is a pleasure to stick with the same guys and see everyone improve as the group sinergy goes up. A thing that dont happen when you kick half of your group after a single run because of fflogs reasons.

You basically just said people shouldn't be allowed to play the game because it can make them toxic. You just did, believe it or not. You said just now that parser makes people toxic and elitist, so what does that make players being a-holes in the game? Parser or not that guys attitude wouldn't change. It was pretty obvious probably you all did bad because how slow the boss died, you don't need a parser for that. So what is this thread about again?

Seems like you like to twist words too, i am not gonna explain my point again. As for the "slow" run it is the second fastest one i get listed on fflogs, i even have some above ten minutes where i was dpsing more, and i didn't kick anybody for that. Kinda reach again the point of ridiculous expectations, defeating a boss is not enough, you have to do it under x minutes under the enrage timer itself or you are wasting your precious time XD

That you recognize room for improvement is good, but to settle for 3.5~4k DPS in a fight where people are doing minimum 1k more than that... don’t settle.

I don't know where you see that much people dealing 4,5k+ damage, but they sure aren't legion in the groups i end in. The vast majority stay in the 3k range.

Ty for the advices on the report option but i dont feel like bother with that for so little, i just wanted to vent a bit.

Going to bed, i hope some have finished their pop corn bags

[HyoMinPark]

The latest part is what kinda pissed me off too, as i said even with a big mistake and dps being... what did he call that again ? Oh yes, being "grey", the run has been smooth and easy.

A detrimental mistake like all 4 DPS dying because the other tank failed to levitate on time and didn’t get knocked back during tanks/healers Long Drop would hardly be called “smooth and easy” in a lot of people’s books. If the DPS had been considerably low prior, then that also wouldn’t be considered “smooth and easy” to some. What is “smooth and easy” is different based on the individual.

I have no doubt it would have become better later with people more warmed up.

Again, if this is a farm group, sticking it out with low DPS and a tank that got all four killed is probably not the best road to take when you’re looking to farm quickly and efficiently.

I have seen way worse in training groups with people dying several times and not even reaching 3k dps, and when it happens it is a pleasure to stick with the same guys and see everyone improve as the group sinergy goes up. A thing that dont happen when you kick half of your group after a single run because of fflogs reasons.

Training groups are different from farm groups. Again, if this group was a farm, behavior that is considered acceptable (lower outgoing damage, deaths, failed mechanics) become less acceptable.

Seems like you like to twist words too, i am not gonna explain my point again. As for the "slow" run it is the second fastest one i get listed on fflogs, i even have some above ten minutes where i was dpsing more, and i didn't kick anybody for that. Kinda reach again the point of ridiculous expectations, defeating a boss is not enough, you have to do it under x minutes under the enrage timer itself or you are wasting your precious time XD

I have no idea who this is addressed to since the forum won’t show your post in its entirety unless I hit “Reply with Quote.”

The entire idea when it comes to farming is to squeeze in as many clears as possible in as short a time frame as possible. If you have two groups, and one is clearing V2S in 7~8 minutes, and the other is clearing in 9~10 minutes, bordering on enrage, most people will choose the first group, because faster clears = more farming potential. That’s how farming works. The 7~8 minute ones are more than likely smoother as well, because shorter duration probably means higher damage output and less mess-ups. People like that in farm groups. The fewer mistakes, the better.

I don't know where you see that much people dealing 4,5k+ damage, but they sure aren't legion in the groups i end in. The vast majority stay in the 3k range.

The majority of the farm groups I am in pull numbers like that. That’s not an uncommon occurrence this late in the tier. If your DPS are staying in the 3k range, then they aren’t doing enough because 4k is extremely easy to hit now with proper gear and a proper rotation. (Also, if you don’t parse, then how would you know what numbers others are pulling, unless you just go by uploads?)


Also, if you just wanted to vent, there’s already a thread for venting about crappy parties. No need to create new ones.

[PArcher]

The majority of the farm groups I am in pull numbers like that. That’s not an uncommon occurrence this late in the tier. If your DPS are staying in the 3k range, then they aren’t doing enough because 4k is extremely easy to hit now with proper gear and a proper rotation. (Also, if you don’t parse, then how would you know what numbers others are pulling, unless you just go by uploads?)

To just add to this; I normally play tank (as in, I'm not especially good at anything else since I get no practice). I jumped into an O2S once as a BRD (literally my only Deltascape parse as a DPS), screwed up my rotation a ton (got my songs extremely misaligned somehow), and still pulled 4.3K DPS. Sure, I know the fight, but anyone in a farm party should too.

Unless severely undergeared, a DPS shouldn't be pulling less than decent tank DPS in a farm party

[Vanitas]

Remember folks, guns have minds of their own and choose to kill people NOT the people holding the gun.
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