This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[Canadane]

The thing about parsing is that you can see more than DPS.
You can see who died, to what, from what. You can see what's casting on who and who's taking what damage.

If you're looking to blame someone you can see more than just dps numbers. I don't think the tank was entirely in the wrong in regards to this topic.

[akaneakki]

Since this thread is about people being a-holes, let me demostrate a bit about players without one, then you can tell them to stay away from the game, because that's what the game apperently did to them. So FF14 makes people bad?


Tank loses aggro when I only do 1 holy on adds. His attitude? lol.
Ignoring people when I ask them if they know mechanics.


[15:13](Akane Wymer) heal lmao
[15:14](Akane Wymer) you were just standing there most of time
[15:14](Akane Wymer) ._.
[15:14](Yal) Are you blind
[15:15](Akane Wymer) why medica 2
[15:15]() Shut your fooking mouth little cunt !! You're a pussy ! ¨

Yeah boys, its apperently ONLY parser people who are toxic? Want me to most more?

[DeaconMoore]

This again?

Jerks will be jerks.

Good news though, play on a ps4 and only with other ps4 players and you can have your parser free "safe" space.

[akaneakki]

Another one:

[HoodRat]

3,5k-4k is way more than enough for o2s

That's around what the tanks should be doing. I know I haven't played in a couple weeks, but I'm pretty sure mch is still a dps.

[HyoMinPark]

Elitist jerks and toxicity aren't gonna be a problem if SE add a parse to the game... yeah right

You do realize that elitism and acting like a jerk aren’t exclusive to people who parse, nor is such behavior always parser related, right? What that tank said is tame compared to some of the crap I see in my weekly Rabanasty runs.

That being said, even with the DPS having just 1 death a piece, a tank shouldn’t be pulling higher than them with just one death, even if there is some gear discrepancies. Tank’s attitude may not be the best, but if this was for a V2S Farm group (not a learning), then he has some reason to complain when one death puts all the DPS except the NIN beneath him. (Even if he didn’t explicitly say “farm”, if he used the “Duty Complete” tag, or the “Loot” tag, those mean for farming; “Duty Completion” is learning/clear tags.)

Also, if it was his PF, he can kick players for whatever reasons he deems fit. His PF, his rules. PLD screwed up and caused a mess that took away time from healer’s DPSing and killed all 4 DPS? He can kick him. You don’t have to like it, but he can do it.

3,5k-4k is way more than enough for o2s

For DPS? No, not really. Depending on your ilvl, you should be at 4k consistently, if not higher. My first clear for V2S was about 3.5k, but I was in 310 Verity gear and a few 320 Genta pieces. And I’m not an uber level BRD either. If you’re in mostly 330 with 340, yours should be much higher than 3.5~4k. Especially MCH because they deal pretty decent damage right now.

That you recognize room for improvement is good, but to settle for 3.5~4k DPS in a fight where people are doing minimum 1k more than that... don’t settle.

[Nedkel]

I would just give up and rage quit, if my dps keeps dying and do less dmg than me. :f

Not only you have to lead the run, and keep the aggro and yourself alive managing various cds abilities, but also keep pushing the run? Do they pay him extra for overdoing his job? lol

[Mimilu]

While the tank's behavior was obnoxious and reportable, nothing in the story or chat logs that you posted indicated that it was parser related... >x>

[Kleeya]

I have no issues with people getting their props for doing well, or ejecting a scrub from their midst who is just wants a free ride but I feel that it takes away from the actual point of the duty, which is to kill what you're aiming at.

The latest part is what kinda pissed me off too, as i said even with a big mistake and dps being... what did he call that again ? Oh yes, being "grey", the run has been smooth and easy. I have no doubt it would have become better later with people more warmed up. I have seen way worse in training groups with people dying several times and not even reaching 3k dps, and when it happens it is a pleasure to stick with the same guys and see everyone improve as the group sinergy goes up. A thing that dont happen when you kick half of your group after a single run because of fflogs reasons.

You basically just said people shouldn't be allowed to play the game because it can make them toxic. You just did, believe it or not. You said just now that parser makes people toxic and elitist, so what does that make players being a-holes in the game? Parser or not that guys attitude wouldn't change. It was pretty obvious probably you all did bad because how slow the boss died, you don't need a parser for that. So what is this thread about again?

Seems like you like to twist words too, i am not gonna explain my point again. As for the "slow" run it is the second fastest one i get listed on fflogs, i even have some above ten minutes where i was dpsing more, and i didn't kick anybody for that. Kinda reach again the point of ridiculous expectations, defeating a boss is not enough, you have to do it under x minutes under the enrage timer itself or you are wasting your precious time XD

That you recognize room for improvement is good, but to settle for 3.5~4k DPS in a fight where people are doing minimum 1k more than that... don’t settle.

I don't know where you see that much people dealing 4,5k+ damage, but they sure aren't legion in the groups i end in. The vast majority stay in the 3k range.

Ty for the advices on the report option but i dont feel like bother with that for so little, i just wanted to vent a bit.

Going to bed, i hope some have finished their pop corn bags

[spagthetapdancer]

That's around what the tanks should be doing. I know I haven't played in a couple weeks, but I'm pretty sure mch is still a dps.

that's...almost twice as much damage as most tanks I see do in normal. I know "that's normal mode" but I don't raid savage so just remarking at how that kind of damage is usually what the only dps that does more than myscrub booty(I don't do particularly well, just happen to usually be the SAM that breaks into the 3400-3800 range in said group and usually top or passed up by someone that does significantly better due to their experience and actually practicing) does. I have to wonder just how if that's "normal for savage" why I don't run into very many tanks of that caliber pugging around. you'd imagine they'd bleed into the general population, or queue a few runs to help a FC mate gear out a side job, or even just be gearing up their tank and have all this other experience from dps/grasp the skills really quickly after practicing on the dummy.

Anecdotes being anecdotes and all that jazz, but numbers that high from tanks are usually a rarity. I wonder if they're a secluded sort that doesn't mix with the unwashed masses or if I'm unlucky/on the wrong data center.