This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[Erik501]

Oh, the parser thing again. It is somewhat tiresome, but I'll share my two cents on the topic.

First of all, I do parse. I parse for myself, I never tell anyone that I am doing it and I never use it to harrass or dismiss anybody. I use it to have a more accurate idea of how much I can pull in a dungeon since I am usually the tank. I use it to improve my damage as well, be it as tank or as damage dealer. I use it to try to copy what other players are doing when I find an outstanding performance. If there was an official parser and people used it this way nobody would ever be against it, myself included.

However, I have seen it before. The addition of an official parser would not suddenly change the nice community we still have overall to an absolute toxic nightmare, but it would change over time. First we would begin to see people complaining in these very same forums because they were dismissed from a party for no apparent reason. Then we would see posts debating if low dps is a valid reason to dismiss someone in duty finder. Then we would begin to see people ignoring mechanics only to get higher dps. Then we would begin to see people ninja-pulling bosses before the countdown is over only to mess everybody else's opener and get a lead in the dps meters. And all of this would go up and up to the point where pretty much every duty finder dungeon becomes a stupid dps competition where everybody spend more time complaining about everybody else's performance than actually doing the duty.

I have seen all of this in other games, and I don't want to see it here. So I don't want any official parser. If you want to parse you can, there are ways, but keep it for yourself. SE is going to give us a better tool regardless, you will be able to record the whole run and see exactly what everybody are doing. For those who say they need a parser to be able to improve the overall performance of their static, there you go, the best tool ever made for that purpose, much better than a parser.

[SaitoHikari]

I have seen all of this in other games, and I don't want to see it here. So I don't want any official parser. If you want to parse you can, there are ways, but keep it for yourself. SE is going to give us a better tool regardless, you will be able to record the whole run and see exactly what everybody are doing. For those who say they need a parser to be able to improve the overall performance of their static, there you go, the best tool ever made for that purpose, much better than a parser.

This is actually pretty good point, from someone that openly parses as well. They just need to remove the restriction on requiring everyone in the party to consent to the recording. There's no reason one person should be able to block that for nothing other than very selfish reasons, when other people in the party may need it to actually learn. Otherwise, I don't see the feature actually being used outside of statics.

[HyoMinPark]

SE is going to give us a better tool regardless, you will be able to record the whole run and see exactly what everybody are doing. For those who say they need a parser to be able to improve the overall performance of their static, there you go, the best tool ever made for that purpose, much better than a parser.

I want to point out the issues with this Replay feature though. Not only do you need the consent of every player in the party, but you can only view the recordings inside of an Inn room, and you can only have 3 at any given time, according to the information provided during the Live Letter.

There’s a huge flaw in a feature that a single person can effectively render useless. Aside from the fact that you could not view it on the fly; you would need to leave the duty, return to an Inn room, and then watch it there, provided you have a free spot for a recording. With much better recording services out there (Twitch or other third-party programs/streaming sites), I personally consider this feature incredibly useless, and it in no way gives you the same amount of information a parse or log would.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

SE is going to give us a better tool regardless, you will be able to record the whole run and see exactly what everybody are doing. For those who say they need a parser to be able to improve the overall performance of their static, there you go, the best tool ever made for that purpose, much better than a parser.

Replay provides no information regarding damage output, thus it's entirely worthless when compared to parsers. With FFlogs, I can accurately pinpoint nearly every single moment throughout an encounter; right down to the overheal, buff usage, rotation and even replay the fight itself. What SE's offering is a dumbed down Youtube equivalent without battle logs. And as Hyomin mentioned, it can only be viewed in the inn whereas parsers are real time. Basically, Replay will, unfortunately, be DoA, I feel.

[Dualgunner]

Humorously also a way better tool for harassment purposes.

[Lilseph]

This thread features a new challenger everyday, it's super amusing.

[Dualgunner]

The thing is, Alien, parsers are allowed implicitly. The only thing that can get one banned regarding a parser is harassment, and that wouldn't change with an official parser.

[Inuk9]

You can just, you know, report him and move on. What parses have to do with anything of this?

[Gleipni]

The only good thing about an official parse,is to make some people realise they are not ready to do savage or extrem trial

if people see they are at 500dps and other DD at 1500,it can help people to asses themselve. but hey,lets not offend people feeling about their capabilities

[Tridus]

Early on in one of these threads I posted about an experience in Keeper of the Lake where we ended up abandoning because the DPS wasn't up to par and the healer couldn't keep us up indefinitely, and I was one of the DPS. Happened to get it again last night while on the same job.

Second time around went fine. The interesting thing is that the first time I thought my DPS was okay (since I was half of the total group DPS), until I saw my number the second time had nearly *doubled*. Turned out I was also part of the problem in the first group. It looked fine compared to people in the group but I was actually making some serious BRD mistakes that I've been able to work on since then and it really showed in the return visit. I'm not even close to a top tier player, but that's a huge gain and it helps make any run I'm in go more smoothly, so I'm really happy.

That's where the value in a comparative analysis comes in vs a personal only parser, in that it provides some context to figure out what X means. Without that, you're running half-blind because you have a number but no context and no way to do a proper analysis with it.

That said, SE probably won't add one because they're in the perfect spot right now. The tool exists if you want access to it (albeit it you need assistance if you play on PS4). SE has rules to ban people who cause problems with it, and otherwise they can ignore it. It costs them nothing in development budget. With how much stuff they want to do and how often budget is an issue, is it worth taking someone off stuff like glamour system improvements to implement what can already be provided if you google how to do it? Let alone the ongoing testing and maintenance costs bringing it into the game would require.

For them, the status quo works.