This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[Ameela]

If there was an in-game parser I feel like a lot of people would probably improve because of it.
I know that until pretty recently I had no idea my damage was so poor and it wasn't until my friends who play on PC and can use ACT told me about it and I actually tried to improve.
Yeah there are people who won't try either way but there might also be a lot of other people who simply don't know how they should improve, or even if they need to improve, because the game doesn't have a parser.

[HyoMinPark]

If there was an in-game parser I feel like a lot of people would probably improve because of it.
I know that until pretty recently I had no idea my damage was so poor and it wasn't until my friends who play on PC and can use ACT told me about it and I actually tried to improve.
Yeah there are people who won't try either way but there might also be a lot of other people who simply don't know how they should improve, or even if they need to improve, because the game doesn't have a parser.

I really like the way you think, and I am of the same mindset. Your comment got kind of lost in a derailment, and I wanted to bring some more attention to it. I really wish there were more people who sought to improve their skill, rather than staying bad or settling for mediocre. And that doesn’t come from any sort of “elitist” viewpoint—I find it fun and challenging to always try to beat my best.

[Zeonx]

Let me get something straight.

No win is perfect not only one person is at fault I have seen people die and then the one with the program quick to jump on a single person even though they didn't die until the end.

As for the reporting thing GM's do it here on forums also.

Even if the poster has good intentions if they make one fatal mistake on a post no matter if people defend their actions they are still temp banned and goes against them for not following the rule sets.

Same for game there are rules to follow and in the end if you don't follow the rules even if you speak up on the forums or defend that persons actions for kicking out a player from group you will suffer the same fate as the forum users who mess up and nothing you say or do will fix it.

So what makes it wrong for me getting people who aren't following rules in game for using a 3rd party program versus good people who just want to play a game?

So you say its okay when it clearly isn't and has been said many of times by GM's and Yoshi himself that not to use it against people but you have some sort of thought in your head its okay and the parse should be okay to do so if your time is wasted lolol.

[HyoMinPark]

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Yoshi-P has said many times that the GMs turn a blind eye to parsers and parsing in general so long as it’s not abused.

So, now I ask you: why report an individual who is using a parser but not harassing anyone with it? Especially since the developers are aware of the fact that a lot of raiders use parsers and have said they incorporate a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy about it, and won’t do anything to them so long as they aren’t harassing people?

[Zeonx]

Yoshi-P has said many times that the GMs turn a blind eye to parsers and parsing in general so long as it’s not abused

People abuse it all the time, I have seen it first hand how many people get cussed out before getting kicked. Just because a few of you that are good hearted fix that issue.

That is why it will never be allowed cause the ones who use it for bad intentions will hold all the good ones back maybe that's the crowd that needs a talking to but because of the way they are it will never happen.

I have never reported people with good intentions but they miss use it to put someone down its fair game.

[HyoMinPark]

People abuse it all the time, I have seen it first hand how many people get cussed out before getting kicked.

This is the problem with your argument though: your evidence is all anecdotal. If we’re going the anecdotal route: you’ve seen bad people who use parsers to abuse others; I’ve seen people who are completely against parsers that have acted far more hostile than people who are pro-parser. And just look at this thread. The OP fabricated a story about parser abuse and being kicked over low DPS, when that wasn’t even why they were kicked in the first place, and parsers were never mentioned at all during the fight; all to just fuel some anti-parser agenda that they seem to have.

Unless they were getting “cussed out” and harassed about supposed poor numbers/DPS, just cussing someone out isn’t the same as harassing them with a parser. That’s just them being a tool. And people don’t need a parser to act like tools. They’ll do it with or without one.

[Dualgunner]

People abuse it all the time,

Weasel words and hyperbole.

I have seen it first hand how many people get cussed out before getting kicked.

Anecdote. Let me rebut:

I have not seen it firsthand. Therefore it must never happen.

"That doesn't count!"

Neither does yours.

That is why it will never be allowed cause the ones who use it for bad intentions will hold all the good ones back maybe that's the crowd that needs a talking to but because of the way they are it will never happen.

It is allowed implicitly. The only use of a parser that is reportable in a way that will actually have any action taken is using it to abuse people: this, however, falls under reporting somebody for abuse.

I have never reported people with good intentions but they miss use it to put someone down its fair game.

Cool beans. We have no disagreements here.

[Gleipni]

What you dont get,is that when someone is playing poorly,it does not affect only him but the WHOLE party,its a bit like if in a FPS game you would say "thats unfair that people kicked me because of friendly fire,not my fault i can't aim well"
And one thing you said is totaly false

No win is perfect not only one person is at fault I have seen people die and then the one with the program quick to jump on a single person even though they didn't die until the end.

Well,thats not the parse fault but the whole groups fault here,i dont get your point here,the guy has some ego problem and ? it dont change the fact that more that 1 people failed there,you should look at the real problem unstead of focusing on some guy wherabout.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So you say its okay when it clearly isn't and has been said many of times by GM's and Yoshi himself that not to use it against people but you have some sort of thought in your head its okay and the parse should be okay to do so if your time is wasted lolol.

Perhaps because Yoshi and the devs watched streams of Ultimate on Twitch where every single raid team not only had ACT running, but used triggers to call out mechanics. The devs are well aware raiders have parsers running, but have adopted a leniency towards them provided people aren't hostile. All you do by reporting parse users who have made no outside antagonistic response is annoy GMs who aren't going to do anything.

People abuse it all the time, I have seen it first hand how many people get cussed out before getting kicked. Just because a few of you that are good hearted fix that issue.

That is why it will never be allowed cause the ones who use it for bad intentions will hold all the good ones back maybe that's the crowd that needs a talking to but because of the way they are it will never happen.

I have never reported people with good intentions but they miss use it to put someone down its fair game.

Seen it first hand have you? I find that hard to believe considering you don't even have a character at 70. Regardless, this is anecdotal evidence. While you claim it "happens all the time," I have been playing for over two years and have never seen parse abuse. And I occasional pug Savage, where it's virtually guaranteed someone has ACT running.

[Zeonx]

I find that hard to believe considering you don't even have a character at 70.

I do this is my cousins account he is sitting right here behind me playing.

I have played FFXI since beta and this for a long time don't jump the gun.

then again I didn't have to let you know that at all why you all getting up in arms over using parse versus people anyways when its against the rules?
Then again never mind I don't wanna reply to how right you are and how its good for the community and how everything will be nice if you had one lol so never mind.