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  1. #11
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minako_Nightsong View Post
    As a white mage, you will want to hit your level's dungeon a couple of times to keep your level in line with your main story quest so this all works itself out.
    Are you sure about that? the MSQ alone gives enough experience to not need to run dungeons multiple times. I went from 50-70 with only MSQ, mostly necessary dungeons and doing roulettes maybe once a week and didn't have any leveling issues until 68, at which point doing 1 roulette was enough to level (and then again for 69 and 70).
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    Vineas Hillis
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    Kujata
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityArrow View Post
    I've started working on the anima weapon quest but it's pretty ... Can anyone give me some advice?
    I wouldn't do this, too much time to finish, and not a very good weapon (good for glamour though).

    Quote Originally Posted by Minako_Nightsong View Post
    I recommend not buying any shire armor(left side) at all. Use your tomes on a shire weapon and shire right side pieces ie the jewelry. You get a box of free left side gear which is 200ilvl including a belt by finishing the 60 class quest ... Starting at 61 in Siren's this will be ilvl 260.(?)
    I disagree, the Augmented Shire (ilvl 270) is great gears (I lv up my characters 60-70 using aug.shire, no problem).
    Lv 60 gears are underpower (ilv 200), to get into siren wearing this may be difficult..
    The chance of getting drop from dungeon is random, the chance of getting poetic and buying shire is not.. Besides, if player run daily roulette everyday, it's so easy to max out poetic..
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    Dirk Gently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineas View Post
    I disagree, the Augmented Shire (ilvl 270) is great gears (I lv up my characters 60-70 using aug.shire, no problem).
    Lv 60 gears are underpower (ilv 200), to get into siren wearing this may be difficult..
    The chance of getting drop from dungeon is random, the chance of getting poetic and buying shire is not.. Besides, if player run daily roulette everyday, it's so easy to max out poetic..
    Since you need a minimium iLVL of 230 to do Baelsar's wall to get to Stormblood, And Sirensong is not any more difficult than the Wall....I'd say Minako has a point. You auto get 1 left side piece of gear in every levelling dungeon so right sides are the most important if you want to stay competetive. Unless you have the time to run a bunch of stuff for augmented shire gear. Or you really like it for glam. Personally, I wouldn't delay anything and get moving to 70....where you also get a box full of level appropriate gear when you do your class quests. It depends on how much time you want to spend to get to 70.
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    Last edited by savageink; 12-28-2017 at 10:19 AM.

  4. #14
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minako_Nightsong View Post
    The reason is that you will replace your entire left side by running just five dungeons. You are given one piece of visible armor per run and this piece isn't a duplicate of anything you have. Starting at 61 in Siren's this will be ilvl 260.(?)
    The leveling dungeons auto-self-loot any gear that is not a weapon. There is no guarantee that it will be a left side piece unless you have all the accessories from that dungeon.
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    Lumi Heilen
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    Wow a lot of helpful advice since I left for work! I appreciate everyone giving their opinions. It gives me a lot to consider and I learned a lot already haha. I just have one more thing I'm confused about. I tried to put a mind materia on my plain shire top piece but it says the item level is too low to benefit, but when I put a piety materia of the same level it works fine? What am I doing wrong here xD?
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityArrow View Post
    Wow a lot of helpful advice since I left for work! I appreciate everyone giving their opinions. It gives me a lot to consider and I learned a lot already haha. I just have one more thing I'm confused about. I tried to put a mind materia on my plain shire top piece but it says the item level is too low to benefit, but when I put a piety materia of the same level it works fine? What am I doing wrong here xD?
    Each piece has maxima for all the stats. If you look in the meld window, it'll show you the maxima at the bottom. The main stat on a piece of gear will be maxed without melds, so put things like determination and crit on instead. Main stat materia will only go on accessories, and even then, the main stat proper will be maxed already and none of the others main stats do anything for that gear's job, except in the cases of a tank adding strength to fending accessories or a non-tank raider adding vitality for survivability in new raid content.
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  7. #17
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    Vineas Hillis
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    ... run a bunch of stuff for augmented shire gear. Or you really like it for glam. Personally, I wouldn't delay anything and get moving to 70....where you also get a box full of level appropriate gear when you do your class quests. It depends on how much time you want to spend to get to 70.
    I agree she has a point, is it the best? I'm not sure.
    Based on my personal experience, the Augmented Shire is very robust at lv 60 even until reaching lvl 70, of course you should change when you get a better gear along the MSQ or Stormblood dungeon drop.

    Does it worth to spend time grinding for gear in Siren? I don't think so..
    Does it worth to grind for poetic? much more beneficial than Siren drop, you can use them for Ironworks, Shire, and I believe Ala-Mhigan in the near future for current and other classes
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  8. #18
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    Minako Nightsong
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 70
    I still feel trying to get a suit of 270 gear at 60 is overkill. Between your class quest and Heavensward story rewards, you will have more than enough power to enter Stormblood story and first dungeon. I would just start filling in the gaps with shire gear as you naturally accumulate tomes doing fun stuff. Do get that weapon, however!

    I was wrong about receiving only left side gear for completing a Stormblood dungeon. I think I accumulated right side accessories so quickly from the chest so I didn't notice. I do not consider doing a dungeon just a couple of times grinding though.
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  9. #19
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    Dirk Gently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minako_Nightsong View Post
    I still feel trying to get a suit of 270 gear at 60 is overkill. Between your class quest and Heavensward story rewards, you will have more than enough power to enter Stormblood story and first dungeon. I would just start filling in the gaps with shire gear as you naturally accumulate tomes doing fun stuff. Do get that weapon, however!

    I was wrong about receiving only left side gear for completing a Stormblood dungeon. I think I accumulated right side accessories so quickly from the chest so I didn't notice. I do not consider doing a dungeon just a couple of times grinding though.
    the other thing is that level 60 MSQ hands out iLvl 255 gear before you even get to siren. and siren is only 5 ILvls higher anyway.

    ...whoops on the left right side thing. though it still kind of works since the MSQ 255 rewards are left side.
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    Last edited by savageink; 12-28-2017 at 05:03 PM.

  10. #20
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    Vineas Hillis
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I really like how this conversation going, reminds me of old time.. I hope it doesn't confuse the thread owner LOL

    How can ilv270 be overkill at lv 60? It's almost the best gear before SB expansion, and to have it so easily now, it's almost like taking it for granted.
    The lvl 60 class gears (ilv 200) is a good intermediate choice, until the end of HW, entering SB with this is hard time.

    I think there are so many options to give depending on his situation because it's not clearly stated, just fresh lvl 60
    1. The easiest will be stick to MSQ free gears, this guarantee survival for sure, the best? of course not
    2. Running a certain dungeon to get wanted gear is waste of time at that lv, better off with option 1
    3. If you have saved up poetics, can easily buy Shire at Idyllshire
    4. Don't have enough poetics? Use the lv 60 class gear first, and back to option 1 or start to save up poetic
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