Carbuncle mounts have arrived!

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yes a level 1 can pay to get stats, they can pay to get ahead in Msq, get ahead with a job boost, get a retainer ahead with a retainer job boost. That is P2W.. While the stats are not very meaningful they can be used to get a level 1 ahead.

Not, it isn't. Once again, you have to establish a "win" state for P2W to apply. The closest equivalent to winning in FFXIV is completing Savage or Ultimate. Purchasing a jump potion is simply paying for a convenience. It accomplishes absolutely nothing if you jump DRG to 60, level to 70 and have no idea how to actually play the job. Getting ahead means very little in this game as progression is always restricted based on caps. A person who skips every single cut scene is technically going to complete the MSQ significantly faster than someone who watches them. Someone leveling a tank will speed through dungeon queues whereas a DPS will have wait times potentially exceeding twenty minutes.

When you can purchase 2,000 tomestone of x or progression on the Stormblood relic is tied to lootboxes, then we can discuss P2W tactics.

[Theodric]

I'm disappointed. Not because they're available on the Mog Station but because I was hoping that they would be available in exchange for achievement certificates. It was implemented as a system and yet there is nothing new associated with it - so for anyone who already acquired the veteran rewards there's literally nothing for them to spend achievement certificates on.

[Jxnibbles]

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Who defines This magical "Win state" for P2W to apply. We have no real definition for this term. You think Raiding and Ultimate is the win state but our game is a MMO.

Others like myself will disagree since you brought up the tomestones, and relics Is that not just progress? The items I listed also have to deal with progress?

We have no real definition for most games since they are never ending like Farmville, Smite, League, Clan wars ect..

Sorry for Edits.

[Takinagi]

Congratulations on wasting your money. I hope you found entering your credit card information real challanging. Bet you really feel accomplished right now.

Even League of Legends has a way to earn aesthetics. And that game is free???

[Arrius]

Congratulations on wasting your money. I hope you found entering your credit card information real challanging. Bet you really feel accomplished right now.

Even League of Legends has a way to earn aesthetics. And that game is free???

Took them about 6 years to get their hextech crafting into the game, and until then you were only able to get icons and perhaps ward skins via events.

[Theodric]

Congratulations on wasting your money. I hope you found entering your credit card information real challanging. Bet you really feel accomplished right now.

Even League of Legends has a way to earn aesthetics. And that game is free???

There's no need to be bitter about it. There's no shortage of special mounts and minions to earn in-game that grant a feeling of accomplishment. As for whether or not something is a waste of money that is up to the individual spending it to decide, not anybody else.

[Stanelis]

Took them about 6 years to get their hextech crafting into the game, and until then you were only able to get icons and perhaps ward skins via events.

But there are no subscription costs in LoL and you don't need to buy the game.

[Arrius]

But there are no subscription costs in LoL and you don't need to buy the game.

You still need to invest quite a bit of time into League to get all champions you want/need, however.
And they make a lot of ruckus about the extra skins via promotions. I recall the PROJECT and Star guardian skins with their fancy (and admittingly well designed) trailers and login screens, basically throwing you their release in your face: "They are out, come get them! You know you want those."
Needless to say, they did cost quite a bit as well to acquire them, with Ezreal's Pulsefire skin alone being about 25$/20€.

[Clover_Blake]

Who defines This magical "Win state" for P2W to apply. We have no real definition for this term. You think Raiding and Ultimate is the win state but our game is a MMO.

I don't believe that reaching lv.60 is winning anything. I have leveled tons of alts myself; whether I leveled them on my own or using the skip potions, it doesn't affect you the slightest and it doesn't give me any sort of advantage towards you. You can't even tell what method I used to level them because you'll just see yet another random lv.60 running around. (For the record, I haven't used any potion myself, and I'm very fine with anyone using them to simply get the level faster. I don't see what difference it makes).

[Rosentretter]

So much money for glams and mounts that aren’t gonna be used for too long. Honestly the only thing I’m thinking to buy is the emote, guess it looks pretty cute in softlanders