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    I assume this'll cause another one of these "Predicted" Doomsdays of FFXIV, as the entire FFXIV Community gets mad for Carbuncle Mounts being put on Mog Station.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takinagi View Post
    the real reason I'm unsubbed right now. gg SE
    You can do so, I bought both so that evens it out =P
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    Congratulations on wasting your money. I hope you found entering your credit card information real challanging. Bet you really feel accomplished right now.

    Even League of Legends has a way to earn aesthetics. And that game is free???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takinagi View Post
    Congratulations on wasting your money. I hope you found entering your credit card information real challanging. Bet you really feel accomplished right now.

    Even League of Legends has a way to earn aesthetics. And that game is free???
    Took them about 6 years to get their hextech crafting into the game, and until then you were only able to get icons and perhaps ward skins via events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Took them about 6 years to get their hextech crafting into the game, and until then you were only able to get icons and perhaps ward skins via events.
    But there are no subscription costs in LoL and you don't need to buy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    But there are no subscription costs in LoL and you don't need to buy the game.
    You still need to invest quite a bit of time into League to get all champions you want/need, however.
    And they make a lot of ruckus about the extra skins via promotions. I recall the PROJECT and Star guardian skins with their fancy (and admittingly well designed) trailers and login screens, basically throwing you their release in your face: "They are out, come get them! You know you want those."
    Needless to say, they did cost quite a bit as well to acquire them, with Ezreal's Pulsefire skin alone being about 25$/20€.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    You still need to invest quite a bit of time into League to get all champions you want/need, however.
    And they make a lot of ruckus about the extra skins via promotions. I recall the PROJECT and Star guardian skins with their fancy (and admittingly well designed) trailers and login screens, basically throwing you their release in your face: "They are out, come get them! You know you want those."
    Needless to say, they did cost quite a bit as well to acquire them, with Ezreal's Pulsefire skin alone being about 25$/20€.
    My point was it is fine for F2P games to have a cash shop, because they need to earn money from somewhere. However, FFXIV isn't a F2P game (even though it is easy to forget due to the very tiny amount of content released and its low quality these days).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    My point was it is fine for F2P games to have a cash shop, because they need to earn money from somewhere. However, FFXIV isn't a F2P game (even though it is easy to forget due to the very tiny amount of content released and its low quality these days).
    Doesn't matter. Blizzard and Valve showed the gaming industry about 7 or so years ago that people still want to cash in their money on vanity objects despite them having paid for a game and running a subscription.

    The Celestial Steed from World of Warcraft alone gave them a revenue of 3.5 million dollar on release, with a queue of 140.000 players waiting in the shops to get their turn to buy it.
    And you can already guess how good it went also with Team Fortress 2 and their hats, emotes and exclusives, some of them still being worth thousands of dollars.

    That was enough for the industry to turn their heads and fully apply those 'services' into their games as well, F2P or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takinagi View Post
    Congratulations on wasting your money. I hope you found entering your credit card information real challanging. Bet you really feel accomplished right now.

    Even League of Legends has a way to earn aesthetics. And that game is free???
    There's no need to be bitter about it. There's no shortage of special mounts and minions to earn in-game that grant a feeling of accomplishment. As for whether or not something is a waste of money that is up to the individual spending it to decide, not anybody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There's no need to be bitter about it. There's no shortage of special mounts and minions to earn in-game that grant a feeling of accomplishment. As for whether or not something is a waste of money that is up to the individual spending it to decide, not anybody else.
    How many items do they have to gate off for people to be concerned? You already paid for the items with your sub. Everyone seems to be so excited to pay again and I dont get why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathander81 View Post
    How many items do they have to gate off for people to be concerned? You already paid for the items with your sub. Everyone seems to be so excited to pay again and I dont get why.
    They're still making mounts available in-game. I'll start worrying when that is no longer the case. It's a common business tactic in the present day for MMO's to have optional items for sale regardless of the presence of a subscription fee. Is it ideal? Not necessarily - but then many people, if given the opportunity, would rather have everything for free. That Square Enix has multiple ways to acquire more money should not be a surprise to anybody.
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