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  1. #1
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    Aylis's Avatar
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Why do I have to spoil myself the savage experience in normal mode?
    Cos normal mode exists for two reasons.

    1) As you said to let all players weither you're super casual or super high end experience the story if the player chooses too.

    2) To act as a gateway lock of Savage content for the player to decide if they are indeed capable of Savage content.

    For what it is, it works, everyone can experience the story in normal mode, and those that can do savage mode could be more focused and down to business instead of thinking about the story.
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    LadyKairi's Avatar
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    Kaja White
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I don't like having the story in normal mode either, because I would rather do it for savage. However, I get casuals want the story too, so I understand why it is the way it is. I would like it to be how it was for coil, but again I get it. I don't think they should change it though. It's just like every other duty in the game. Gotta do normal before the harder mode, and I don't think savage should be the exception.
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    Ash Primordial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    if you're capable of clearing Savage, you should be capable of clearing normal
    Seems like some people here didn't get my point. It is not about being capable to clear something, or, "it's just 1 run normal "...
    This one run will spoiler me my savage experience almost entirely, that is my problem.
    As these fights rarely differ anymore, just some extended version of a mechanic, my reward as a player to see something new is gone, unless it's a complete new boss.
    It's like having a story mode for ultimate, where is the fun in that if you are a savage/ultimate progress raider?

    Is the fear of having bad players in party finder for savage in week 1 really that important to you?
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    This one run will spoiler me my savage experience almost entirely, that is my problem.
    If doing it on normal entirely spoils your savage experience, than this is a PEBCK issue.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
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    Io Hausti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    ... This one run will spoiler me my savage experience almost entirely, that is my problem.
    Well if you're that good of a savage player then how about you just clear the normal mode with your eyes closed the entire time? Aka completely blind runs XD That way it wont spoiler you anything :P

    Also your point about the gear in there being outrated by crafted gear doesnt mean anything.
    1. Not everyone has a good crafter on that level or in theire friendlist.
    2. The crafted gear on same level comes out several patches after the raidpatch
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Lol i like normal mode giving us hints on about what savage would be like.
    but neo was a suprise for me and i liked it xd
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I really don't see much of a point to normal raid. People complained about coil's story being locked behind, well, coil. Most people I asked said they just looked at the videos on YouTube and people that did coil wanted the clears for achievements or because they were raiders. I often sit on the fence of "this is a waste of resources" (especially with how bad you can be and still clear, it really teaches nothing, and those that are truly terrible, well, vote abandon is a favorite) and "this is a good stepping stone for playing catch up." I know the approach between east and west are stark and that undoubtedly plays a role into why it's split (even though JP has much better clear rates on most of their servers compared to west's best server, Balmung). I just really wish they weren't, personally. Instead of skipping normal, I'd rather it be reverted back to the coil days: a single raid tier. Especially with unsyncing, non-raiders will eventually get the story anyway, if they haven't watched it from their favorite streamers or video platforms.
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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post

    2) To act as a gateway lock of Savage content for the player to decide if they are indeed capable of Savage content.
    Ye after 3 or more years for some players of having cleared every content of the game, they need to test my skill again in a dumbed down normal mode?pls..
    In the old days during coil you had the option to play normal or savage, while getting the same rewards, it unlocked all together. I don't want the same rewards now, but they could have kept that way for unlock. There was no test.
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Ye after 3 or more years for some players of having cleared every content of the game, they need to test my skill again in a dumbed down normal mode?pls..
    In the old days during coil you had the option to play normal or savage, while getting the same rewards, it unlocked all together. I don't want the same rewards now, but they could have kept that way for unlock. There was no test.
    This game, or any other game for that matter isn't just about you. If the top tier world first players don't get a pass, why do you feel you should?
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    Io Hausti
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Ye after 3 or more years for some players of having cleared every content of the game, they need to test my skill again in a dumbed down normal mode?pls.. .
    Well yeah some people wont need 3 years to get good in this game. They need longer than that :P
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