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    I understand clipping exist but in sets too? Read on

    I can easily make peace with clipping in the context where I'm glamming different parts together. Its not realistic to expect devs to account for all possible glam combinations and not expect clipping.

    What I don't understand is why clipping exist in the gear sets they make when there's precedence of accounting for it. Here's what I mean:


    Example 1: Good design set




    This is the hellfire set for tanks. As you can see here, the shield is hanging from the spikes from the armor itself. I find that to be incredibly amazing just in terms of...innovation, for a better lack of word. Now if you try to use a different shield, there's gonna be clipping, and that I can understand.


    Example 2: Bad design set




    This is the WHM AF3. I'm completely baffled here because the staff was made for the set as well but it clips with the...thing (i forgot the name. I should know this, I'm terrible lol). They could've adjusted it so it's at an angle to avoid it but for some reason or other they just left it as is.


    My call to action here is SE revisits its gear sets and corrects the clipping. I feel this is justifiable as this is something that is completely within their control and there are no variable involved if someone glams themselves from head to toe in a set.


    Discuss away.


    EDIT: Ironically, when it comes to the hellfire tank gear, the pld sword clips for it as well. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Um, just to reiterate here, and I'll put this on the first page...

    I'm arguing the clipping within the confines of a gear set. I'm not talking about lost causes like hair clipping, mount clipping, race clipping because they have too many interchangeable variables. I'm talking about the gear sets.

    I know I've probably overstepped it there with needing to fix all previous sets there as I'm sure they can't be bothered to check every set but going forward, if putting on a collar on a chest piece is just going to be skewered by the cane created for that set, then better to remove the collar altogether. After all, the male version of that AF3 whm set doesn't have one and by that same note, it looks very normal. The female version is so forced and the clipping is so, so very visual that it just doesn't look passable.

    Again, I am at peace with clipping due too many outside variables. Its when something was made specifically as a set AND it clips the set anyways. That's just shoddy to me.
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    Last edited by SenorPatty; 12-25-2017 at 10:20 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    I mean right now with technology there's nothing you can do to prevent clipping. Especially in online games atm. What workaround would you prefer they use?
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    Worth noting that on Lalafell the weapon doesn't actually clip:



    They probably can't make sure every set works on every race without clipping unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    I mean right now with technology there's nothing you can do to prevent clipping. Especially in online games atm. What workaround would you prefer they use?
    The one where they use foresight for sets. As I've stated before, they can't take into account every clipping issue. But if they're going to design sets, they can work within the confines of it to make it work, which is a much more realistic approach.

    As an example, the hailstorm cane has been created at an angle that if you were to equip it to the AF3 whm set, it still clips but not as bad as the AF3 cane. They're not even part of the same set so not only that is acceptable to me but it also tells me that if they wanted to adjust the cane or make modifications to it, they could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Worth noting that on Lalafell the weapon doesn't actually clip:



    They probably can't make sure every set works on every race without clipping unfortunately.
    Ah, a race issue. I will admit I overlooked that.

    Is it only the lala though or other races are fine?


    EDIT: It could be me but the cane looks very slanted though on the lala. Now I'm confused even further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Ah, a race issue. I will admit I overlooked that.

    Is it only the lala though or other races are fine?


    EDIT: It could be me but the cane looks very slanted though on the lala. Now I'm confused even further.
    Lalas have their weapons slanted because their torsos aren't big enough to hold the weapons like the taller races, so it could very well only not clip on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Ah, a race issue. I will admit I overlooked that.

    Is it only the lala though or other races are fine?


    EDIT: It could be me but the cane looks very slanted though on the lala. Now I'm confused even further.
    They did slant it further, lalas are short with stubby "legs".
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    I recently made a Miqo’te alt because I can’t decide on just one race/look and found that their tails literally clip everything in the game that isn’t pants when they run including the skirt the females start out in as their default race outfit. Like, the entire top part of their tail just repeatedly vanishes into the the outfit with every step. They couldn’t even make the tail not clip the one outfit in the game that was specifically made just for them. So yeah, these kinds of things bug me too, but unfortunately it is what it is and we just have to get used to/learn to ignore the wonky bits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    I mean right now with technology there's nothing you can do to prevent clipping. Especially in online games atm. What workaround would you prefer they use?
    Technologically it's feasible. Be it cloth physics that move for solid objects or go back to 1.0 style gear where everything was properly fitted instead of scaled.
    They won't do it because of the costs though.
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    But on the other hand we dont get longer hair cause of the clipping... >_>
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