Suggestions: Red Mage AoE?

[Raim]

But in trash packs that 30 seconds in roughly in between pulls. If a pack of enemies isn't dead or nearly dying in a dungeon once a Summer has finished his burst and used Deathflare then the other DPS or healer isn't contributing enough. That isn't the issue with RDM. Its just that RDM AoE feels very repetitive and even the payoff for Enhanced Moulinet doesn't feel good. Thats why I had suggested that Enhanced Moulinet acts like a 'combo' similar to their single target rotation, and once you use it three times you can use an AoE Verholy/Verflare as a finisher. That would make it feel like a better payoff.

[Eloah]

Say what if they add an effect similar to Summoners Tri-Bind, but using RDMs Tether spell instead. Whenever Enhanced Scatter procs Tether will hit for X potency. Might be a bit odd since Tether is just a bind, but its an option.

[Llugen]

I dig it, especially since we've been discussing how to make Freeze useful (finally)!~

[AnimaAnimus]

At least you know about Enchanted Moulinet.

SOOOO many rdm do their physical combo on 1 mob in a group that I don't even bother to ask why anymore.

[EllieShadeflare]

I'd still say replace Tether and give RDM Verwater and Verblizzard.

And maybe something for an AoE equivalent of Verflare/Verholy. Not sure what I'd call it. We have Jolt, Impact and Scatter for neutral spells...

[Eloah]

I'd still say replace Tether and give RDM Verwater and Verblizzard.

And maybe something for an AoE equivalent of Verflare/Verholy. Not sure what I'd call it. We have Jolt, Impact and Scatter for neutral spells...

While I'd like to see Verwater and Verblizzard, I personally want a Water spell, in general, to use. The fact that we still don't have one is a bit bothersome. Fluid Aura doesn't count, especially now that it's just a knock back.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I quickly skimmed, but it looks like no one mentioned that RDMs AoE actually changes if there's exactly 3 enemies.
So you need to watch how quickly enemies are going to die, and switch spells if there will be only 3 enemies as u pick ur next spell.

(You use single target after scatter, to build up the meter quicker, for more WSs)

[ChaoticCrimson]

I quickly skimmed, but it looks like no one mentioned that RDMs AoE actually changes if there's exactly 3 enemies.
So you need to watch how quickly enemies are going to die, and switch spells if there will be only 3 enemies as u pick ur next spell.

(You use single target after scatter, to build up the meter quicker, for more WSs)

Yes, that's pretty important to remember in the RDM aoe "flow", as it were. It's really only Scatter spam/E. Moulinet when you have 4+ enemies to burn through. Contre Sixte is also a big part of aoe damage for RDM too, though I don't remember seeing mention of it on this thread. You could also use up E. Moulinet on a three-enemy mob I suppose, but I prefer saving the mana-gauge for 4+ personally where it counts more. It's a fair arsenal I think, though I wouldn't think one or two more options in the future is out of the question. My concern is the danger of button bloat, but I suppose that's a bridge that'll be crossed in time.

Edit: I do see Contre Sixte was mentioned a couple times, so there's that lol.

[Remedi]

Technically speaking Cure and similar are water spells

[Eloah]

Technically speaking Cure and similar are water spells

That might be, lorewise, but we all want a damaging spell.