Your Experience With Frontline Since 4.15

[OskarXCI]

What has your matchmaking experience been with Frontline since Rival Wings was added with 4.15?

Still only Shatter with the roulette? Queue times?

My experience on Chaos DC has been better in some ways but worse in others.

The maps are now more evenly played but the queue times has increased on average but that is to be expected. About 10-20 min during prime-time.

I still think we need the rotation system. It would help with queue times if everyone are queuing for the same map always.

[Theodric]

In my experience? I've also noticed that PvP in general is pretty dead on the Chaos datacentre outside of peak times. It sucks, since it means if I log on outside of peak times and I'm in the mood for PvP I'm left wanting and just end up logging off and playing something else.

[Zojha]

Aether:
Completely dead at first, slowly starting to pick up again as people quit Astragalos, whose queues are getting worse day by day. Roulettes are still mostly Shatter and 72 man is a pipe dream. Wait times vary. If it pops at all, wait times are usually around 20 minutes.

Note: I am playing at EU hours and Aether is NA, so these are around 14.00-18.00 EST.

[Fannah]

Is Astralagos part of the pvp roulette btw? Just wondering, I still didn't get the quest on purpose to don't get it in roulette for now x)

To answer the question, it's dead exactly at midnight :/ One time I had one proc at 00:50a.m.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Nah, Frontlines is one roulette, Rival Wings/Astragalos is another entirely.

I've done exactly one Shatter, and one Secure match. Mentally, I'm pretty done with Shatter. I'd play it if my friends are there, but I'd much rather queue Seize or Secure. Rival Wings isn't part of Frontlines, so I won't get into that too much here, but I don't like the changes SE's made and let stand so far, so I'm not all that interested in RW anymore.

[Kisama]

I've played 2 frontline matches and they are what you would expect. Pretty much everybody besides us were bots. It wasn't fun at all.

[saucyshortcake]

I only did Frontlines once since Rival Wings came out(only even bothered for WT..) and it was a 24 "person" shatter match of almost entirely bots. I had nothing to do except run around capture starting points since all 3 teams were just standing at the canyon mouths doing nothing.

Rival Wings is still okay, the matches still pop except late at night. I'm starting to see more and more bots, though. Some of the same half dozen have already leveled jobs to 60+ from 30, despite being reported by multiple players. Once the bots are more public, all the shatter bots will probably start botting Rival Wings for the mount and whatnot. That'll probably kill Shatter off entirely as well as making Rival Wings almost unplayable because most of the players on both teams will end up just running down the north/south lanes and get stuck autoattacking towers for 10 minutes straight.

[Fannah]

Thanks a lot ThirdChild

Kisama, I didn't see much bots recently, maybe I'm lucky, but yea, I don't see as many suicidal ones doing nothing or waiting.

What i'm concerned about is to know that across all European servers (so also with middle east players too), we can have only 24people match of 10min after waiting like 30min. Isn't there a problem? Is really so few people interested in it?

Advice to gain time : Select PvP maps manually (so not the Roulette) and select the option to be matched in already started game. It happens often you actually get matched in a game that didn't even started because someone left directly (which is really weird imo).
You can also select the option to don't care about the team you play in that can speed up things as it'll be easier to them to put you somewhere (sorry if you only want to fight for a single banner, I wish I could only go for Maelstrom, tbh).

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

No worries, any and all achievement/reward progress still counts toward the GC you actively belong to, even if using Frontline Freelancer.

[RiyahArp]

It pops ok on primal primetime, 8v8 though. I don't see bots, probably because you're looking at up to 30 minutes counting pop and match time, for under 500k exp for a loss. Same as RW. Plus, with the new bst tribe quests and raid roulette, dps level a lot faster now. It's ok, but a weird thing is that it seems you only get two teams that tend to fight really close, with the third being outmatched or filled with new/less skilled players.

The gameplay idk. the 8v8 makes mistakes matter a lot more and makes it hard to recover. You can't really rely in the third FC to even the game up in the same way, they just avoid conflict and let the leader stay in the lead.