Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
I know this is a bit off topic but honestly what is your purpose in this thread? Like, you clicked on it and decided to reply but to what end? What are you advocating? It sounds like you have a similar approach to bad play that many of the people you're arguing against employ so then... why are you here?
I originally responded to the OP, and later joined a discussion related to 'lazy play' with ( i think the char name was hyo something rather? )

That discussion was primarily why I was here. A claim was made about 'lazy play'. The point I wanted to make is that you cant truly determine a player is being lazy unless they tell you they're being lazy. Data points like level are not indicators of lazy play.

I would know where you stand.
My stance is treating people who make these bad plays as if they are new/just dont know what to do. In addition, I believe that for most content, "poor performance" really doesnt matter that much. Initially, I believed the OP's "poor play" to be related to "poor performance" which i think is where some of the confusion originated.

For the sake of having an example of why poor performance doesnt matter on most content, let's say a BLM is spamming Freeze as their AoE rotation in a dungeon. If you attempt to assist them with their rotation, but they continue to spam freeze, you might kick them, but you kick them for their unwillingness to work with the group not their actual performance. If they were attempting the proper rotation but weren't flawless with execution, from my experience they dont get kicked / yelled at, etc, and its good that they stay in party so that they can practice.