Why Does It Feel Like Poor Play Is Acceptable (I'm Venting.)

[HyoMinPark]

Because you decided to feel that way.

Honestly, you can feel however you want to about anything. You can choose to tolerate or reject any behavior you feel like. I think the important thing to understand is that it's pretty unreasonable to expect random players who have different backgrounds, mmo experience, insecurity levels, etc to meet your personal minimum standards of performance and security 100% of the time. It's just not going to happen in a pug.

It’s not exactly “high standards” to expect players to perform the bare minimum of their job or to hit more than just one button (see OP’s Butcher Block AND Butcher Block ONLY example).

whether you cleared 5x in an hour or wiped for the full hour, you were playing the same content you intended to play for 60 minutes. equating your game time to productivity makes it sound like you're treating it like a job and not a game.

I’m sorry that I would like to have 5 clears in the span of an hour when I’m farming something, instead of just a singular clear. I’m also sorry that I don’t want to spend an entire lockout wiping to a fight that I am not progging but trying to farm instead of clearing it several times in the span of one total lockout. My bad. Productivity/Efficiency when it comes to clearing and farming content does not equate to treating the game like a job; it’s about making the most out of the time you have to play. For people farming, “making the most” out of their playtime is not getting a single clear in a span of 1 hour, but multiple clears.

you didn't lose 4 minutes you were still playing v1s. if productivity is the only thing that matters, don't do it with randoms. if you're not willing to put in the work to put together a group that gives you the amount of productivity you want, you can't expect that level of productivity.

You lose almost a full second run. V1S is easily downed in 5~6 minutes. Spending 10 minutes for one clear is a waste of almost an entire second clear. The idea of “putting a group together” can mean either a static, or a PF, where when you list something as a “farm”, there is a minimum expectation that the people joining are competent when it comes to clearing the content quickly and efficiently.