Question about Balmung.

[Theodric]

They just have to take a hatchet to Balmung. Flat out. The players won't do it themselves,they're too settled and indolent. Take the decision away from them, and carve that server up like a roast turkey, SE. You know what you call one artery that's swollen and bigger than the others? A guaranteed bad time.

They don't need to do anything. The server is bloated though it is no longer bloated to the extent that it crashes the entire datacentre each time a new patch goes live. The people remaining there do so with the knowledge that nobody new will be joining the server for quite some time. The people who are not on Balmung who really want to go there simply need to reconsider their stance.

[Galgarion]

They don't need to do anything. The server is bloated though it is no longer bloated to the extent that it crashes the entire datacentre each time a new patch goes live. The people remaining there do so with the knowledge that nobody new will be joining the server for quite some time. The people who are not on Balmung who really want to go there simply need to reconsider their stance.

So it's like one of those post-apocalyptic British flicks where all the women are dead and children are no longer born?

[Theodric]

So it's like one of those post-apocalyptic British flicks where all the women are dead and children are no longer born?

Pretty much!

[SorrowsEnd]

it crashes the entire datacentre each time a new patch goes live

You do realize that it isn't Balmung that crashes the server right?
It's everybody from Aether getting on at the same time.

[BillyKaplan]

You do realize that it isn't Balmung that crashes the server right?
It's everybody from Aether getting on at the same time.

Servers have their own capacity and management to an extent. Servers can and do crash independently without the other servers on the data server suffering. I remember one time early SB Gilgamesh crashed and suddenly all of Balmung could go through Raubahn extreme it was glorious. But the rest of the data center yet lived.
When Balmung goes down, on the other hand...

[reiichi]

You do realize that it isn't Balmung that crashes the server right?
It's everybody from Aether getting on at the same time.

while everyone on Aether contributes, Aether's also got some of the most populated servers. Balmung can and does crash the entire datacenter at times. It was also one of the only servers that needed to keep the multiple zone instances and AFK timers. Square Enix also had to initiate nightly server reboots during Stormblood to keep our queues down. Queses over 3000 people that took MULTIPLE HOURS to get through. Imagine not even being able to login because you had thousands of people ahead of you in line and the server was so overfilled that five hours later, assuming you didn't get a 90k, you were still waiting to get in. That was Balmung.

If haven't, go back and read my post on page 7. I already went into detail on what can and cannot be done.

[SorrowsEnd]

while everyone on Aether contributes, Aether's also got some of the most populated servers. Balmung can and does crash the entire datacenter at times. It was also one of the only servers that needed to keep the multiple zone instances and AFK timers. Square Enix also had to initiate nightly server reboots during Stormblood to keep our queues down. Queses over 3000 people that took MULTIPLE HOURS to get through. Imagine not even being able to login because you had thousands of people ahead of you in line and the server was so overfilled that five hours later, assuming you didn't get a 90k, you were still waiting to get in. That was Balmung.

If haven't, go back and read my post on page 7. I already went into detail on what can and cannot be done.

Balmung does not crash the server itself theirs no proof of that. It does not help it being the biggest on Aether however it does not crash the server. Its everybody getting on at once that does it. If Balmung crashes itself of course others are able to exp better connections because 21-22k people on whats like a 10yr server is gone.

[reiichi]

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First, Aether's a datacenter. Balmung's individual zones have crashed. While not a population issue, there was that fishing bug recently that would bring down worlds until SE first removed the spots, then finally addressed the issue.

Second, Balmung going down wouldn't just clear up connections. Servers don't work that way. Clients will try to reconnect. They'll also all get kicked back to the Lobby server, which hey, that's "Aether" there. And well...overload the lobby server and there goes the entire datacenter's access to get into every world on that datacenter.

Third, these servers aren't 10 years old. Assuming that SE recycled all their servers, the ones used in the now 7 year old 1.0 would have stayed in Japan. I kinda do this for a living, but you generally try to avoid shipping heavy expensive hardware overseas. Aether was previously in Montreal and now it's in California. Likely, they didn't ship the physical machines either and leased out hardware or just bought new machines. But a bigger and better machine can't always fix these issues. There's still packet processing and packet broadcasting to take into account, which is why the world is locked.

tldr: So like I explain on page 7, you can and do hit physical limitations, whether processing, bandwidth, latency, or a combination based on how many people are connected where. There's a minimal game experience that needs to happen and Balmung already impacts that. Until its population decreases enough for it to be considered stable in the long-term, it's not gonna open.

[KaivaC]

You do realize that it isn't Balmung that crashes the server right?
It's everybody from Aether getting on at the same time.

You do realize that many players have experienced this before, and likely know a lot more about what they are talking about than you. You keep on pressing this argument that you clearly don't understand.

[SorrowsEnd]

You do realize that many players have experienced this before, and likely know a lot more about what they are talking about than you. You keep on pressing this argument that you clearly don't understand.

Yet you're still here you do not have to be here nor with your kind of attitude.